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It jives but the problem is that many do not understand unless it says directly being a parable or otherwise. For example in Jn. 7:38 it says out of your belly will flow living waters. Now one would have to beckon the question what does that have to do with anything or let’s look at 1Pt. 4:6 it...

"Conscious Existence" is just another word to say life and or to have life and yet this goes contrary to what you believe. Because if we take these words conscious and existence and look up there individual meanings there is no doubt to what they mean. 1Cor. 8:4 gives us a great definition of...

Is the fire a literal fire then and then people are literal as in physical and the fire also? What about the phrase 2nd death.

As of yet not person has shown me a verse showing that the unsaved will have eternal life, everybody likes to use this parable and look at the rich man suffering and somehow having a conscience. But even in this it says nothing of the sort of the rich man having eternal life. Have you ever...

The unsaved cannot suffer because they have never been given eternal life.

Don't think for one moment that those that hold fast to Mrk. 16 are tempting the Lord, they are following what the Bible has to say concerning all of this. They are reading what the Bible has to say and likewise those that hold fast to a living person in hades screaming for help are doing the...

Just because his name appears twice does not necessarily mean it was the same person.

I don’t know Jesse Morrell neither have I heard of hip up till now. As far as they having eternal they very well could. And yes you can’t have sin to enter into heaven; You have to be perfect.

Highly unlikely but a good thought never the less

The word beggar is used in correlation with that of Mt. 5:3 And yet you are saying that sheol/hades is temporarily place of punishment and yet it is found readily all throughout the Bible. Also please provide a scriptural reference to that of the unsaved receiving a body and what kind of...

Ok, I'm not following you here.

I think I see what you are saying in regards to the fact that I quoted Jn. 3. I used Jn. 3 of the idea of being born again in that the richman was not born again in other words when he died that was it he did not receive eternal life. In exchange Lazarus did become born again and was given...

Maybe we are not seeing well or understanding what I’m conveying but I never said the Richman had eternal life afterwards. I do however see what you are conveying in that we have physical life and yet we don’t have a spiritual life / eternal life until we have truly become saved.

No my OP is referring to when one dies afterwards.

The reason that Lazarus name was mentioned at not the Richman was because Lazarus name was written in the book. Ex. 32:32, Rev. 21:27

The idea of Lazarus being poor in the spirit is supported by scripture, what does Mt. 5:3 have to say about being poor in the spirit ? Does it not say that theirs is the KOG ? The idea of looking at this as just a story would make no sense because we would already draw the conclusion of the...

Answer me this as stated in Mark 16 could you drink something poisonous such as cyanide and live to tell about it ? Jesus never said this was a parable also and yet how does one look at this.

Sure this has everything to do with salvation. Where did Lazarus go after he died ?

No the Richman did not have life. Maybe to put it this way he was not born again.

The true believers will have eternal life. Once the unsaved have died they cease to have life.