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"There was a man sent from God, whose name was John." - (John 1:6 KJV ) "John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins." - (Mark 1:4 KJV) "...the word of God came unto John the son of Zacharias in the wilderness. [3] And he came into all the...

The question you asked traces back to Nehemiah6's incorrect statement about my stance on baptism as it relates to when a person receives the Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost. That's why I included that part in my answer. My apologies if you felt I was putting words into your mouth. Love in Jesus, Kelby

I've heard several people say that. I don't say that I agree. Most I've met that hold that doctrine also have a REALLY hard time differentiating between "belief" and "receiving the Holy Ghost". Love in Jesus, Kelby

Yep, The trips were profitable for all involved. :) Glad to see you're back. I have a tendency to analyze endlessly when someone leaves honest and important questions on the table. That cycle is easily broken when the other party is there to interact with. I read your post then stepped...

That's a good, valid, and appropriate question. When making the OP, I knew it would come up and was wondering if, and/or how best, to answer it. What I decided is that I will avoid answering it directly for as long as possible. The main reason is that it's important for people to realize the...

@CS1 It is very important to be able to recognize who does or does not have the spirit of God. It is not always beneficial to express that knowledge openly. Love in Jesus, Kelby

I guess I could have added this as well: A person's behavior on Monday does not change the fact that they did (or did not) have the Holy Ghost on Friday. The Holy Spirit (once received) is a comforter that abides with us forever (John 14:16) ... even if we sin on Monday. Love in Jesus, Kelby...

"Once you know it, you should say it" would be an inaccurate portrayal of my meaning. Even though it is an understandable assumption, it is still an assumption rather than a reality. Another filter I have is approximately "You don't really know anything important until you know something...

There's a difference between KNOWING if someone has the Holy Ghost and SAYING "You do or don't have the Holy Ghost". I did not say or suggest that there is a need to go through a church announcing "THIS one has the Holy Spirit. And THIS one does not". But there is a reason (perhaps even a...

Sorry to abbreviate the post to answer the question, but it's fairly safe to abbreviate when there is agreement. :) And I do agree that only the first verse was about physical water. :) And I'll say this again perhaps only for others' sakes. But I really like that you highlight the...

I did indeed have a restful and rejuvenating nap. Thank you. :) I hope you did, too. Love in Jesus, Kelby

I am saying that Water baptism is necessary. I am saying that Spirit baptism is necessary. I am saying that they are not the same thing. I am saying that they do not accomplish the same thing. (each accomplishes something that the other does NOT accomplish) I am saying that water baptism CAN...

FYI, I've gotta nap. I look forward to reading the replies. Thank you all for considering godly topics. Love in Jesus, Kelby

Thank-you JESUS! That is the right response! When will people be taught how to go to the Father and learn directly from him? Without that, the people do not have the ability to answer the next question... Love in Jesus, Kelby

First, I appreciate your appreciation. (as silly as that sounds). I see kindness and love in many of your posts as well. Secondly, I love the rainbow of scriptures you present on the topic. That wide array brings up the question "How many of them are (unarguably) relating to water baptism...

Sorry. Confusion is not my intent. I wish you well, Kelby

Thanks for the honest reply. That also is completely acceptable. :) Love in Jesus, Kelby

That is actually my belief as well. I can only mostly agree on this part. I believe that as long as we're still operating under "now I know in part" our filters are only partially correct. Some more than others. But we all still have need for testing and adapting OUR OWN filters whenever...

I was saying that BOTH water baptism and spirit baptism are necessary. But that is REALLY hard for some people to grasp because they have the filter that "Salvation is instantaneous and only has ONE part (or piece, or aspect, or ??... I'm really struggling to get that last word right) Love...

I'm curious.. Is the current delay because people are typing slowly... doing research... or doing some other thing? My hope would be one of the first two, but I don't want to make too hard of a guess. Love in Jesus, Kelby