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We certainly can't walk together until you come down from that high horse you are riding, and come back to reality!

We can't break bread together until you meet me on neutral ground that we are all filling in the information not given in scripture to form a conclusion.

I kinda doubt that, oyster! I just hope they come to Did I not say that we, too, fill in the gaps? There can be no conclusion if the gaps are not filled!

I believe your heart is in the right place, David! What you can't seem to see is that in order to come to the conclusion of a post-trib resurrection only, you must fill in the information not given in scripture to reach that conclusion. The same is true for us pre-trib believers. If you deny...

As if you don't fill in the gaps of your own theory! Hypocrisy to say the least!

5 have escaped the wrath to come (the tribulation), and 5 will now have to face that wrath because they were not in the faith. The door was shut to escape the wrath, but the door can be opened still, but it will cost them dearly! These are the multitudes saved during the tribulation, they paid...

I wonder what the parable of the 10 virgins was about? 5 were left behind when the Bridegroom came, wonder why.

This scripture in Joshua has always been an encouragement and motivation for me. Of course this was written under law, so if you look at it in grace through Christ it means the same for us today. Joshua 1:8-9 "This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate...

I'm no doctor by any means, in fact, I don't even understand how the sperm and egg work together to produce man. But I do believe that just as sperm had nothing to do with forming Christ, neither did Mary's egg have anything to do with it. I believe that the entire formation of Christ was done...

That's where you are half right! The entire purpose the Great Tribulation is to bring Israel to Christ. God uses the rest of the world to make this possible, and in the process deals with the sin of all men. The focus is on Israel! He promised faithful Abraham many things to be given to his...

If you remember, Laura, Jesus came and offered salvation only to the Jews. of Course He never turned down a Gentile for salvation. Everything He taught was in the Law, the Law that only the Jews had! His messages and teachings were directly addressed to the Jews, and indirectly to the rest of...

This scripture is the same as Matt. 24, it is given to the Jews. During the tribulation many Jews will believe and they will be betrayed and put to death. There will be total craziness in Israel over some of the Jews accepting Christ. This is prophesy for Israel, but indirectly reflects the...

He is answering the Jewish disciples who just asked Him, "what shall be the sign of your coming,." Jesus is zeroing in on His return as related to the Jews. All the parables of Matt. 24 are directed to Israel.

In Matthew 24 and 25, Jesus is only speaking to Israel! He is telling them what will befall Israel. That is not connected to the saints we are discussing!

Not you too, oyster!

Dear Laura! In David's post #4185, this is not the Church saints as David suggests! Anyone who is saved is a saint, these are the ones who are left on earth after the rapture and were saved. David is using the fact that they are called "saints" to say they are the Church saints, that is not...

So it's only YOUR scholarly experts that YOU agree with who we should believe! It looks as though you have left us no choice but to conform to your ways and beliefs.

What I have noticed with you guys is that there is always the apostasy thing thrown at us, or we are not in the will of God, or salvation is doubted, or we have separated ourselves from the truth of scripture, etc, etc. I seems if we don't agree with you we are in trouble with God! Is that the...

You can't show me in scripture, in black and white, that the Church will go through the tribulation, but there is no assuming? I would say that is arrogance! I would also say that attitude brings you no credit with fellow posters whatsoever!

That's what I thought, a whole lot assuming. But our side has it's share of the same, if the truth is to be told. It's impossible to put together the resurrections without filling in the gaps, in other word, assuming. But there are some here who believe there is no assuming on their part, that...