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    If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?

    No, he does not! That comes at the very end of the 1000 years when he deceives the nations. During the 1000 years Satan has been cast into prison. Then he is released at the very end of the 1000 years.
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    If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?

    The end of 1000 years is not the end of His rule, it is the end of that Age, the Kingdom Age. The Perfect Age will have begun then, forever into infinity. John begins to describe what the theologians call the Perfect Age in Rev. 21. This is when God makes all things new, there is no more sin...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    But then again, what is a parable? Is it not the symbol of a truth? I would say the symbol of salvation is revealed in the word "virgin."
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Well, I see now that I need to adjust to the new reasonable David! What I see in 1 John 2:18-19 is the True Church vs. the Laodicea Church. The apostate church, pretending to be the Church is not with the True Church. "They went out from us but they were not of us." I see this as never being...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Present your case and we can take a look at it. Hopefully we won't be called out for "being off topic." This could or could not be considered "on topic." I guess it's in the eye of the beholder.
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    They all were called virgins, why do you divide what the Lord has combined? This is how you weasel your way to an untruth for the sake of your presumed belief that one cannot lose their salvation!
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Go ahead and show it to me so I can shoot it down! I feel like some sharp shooting this afternoon!
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    The mere fact that Christ refers to them as "virgins" is proof that they were His! But as we see, 5 virgins, that did belong to Him, now have no "oil." In other words, no indwelling Holy Spirit, which equals no salvation!
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    The "oil" in the lamps represent the Holy Spirit, 5 had their lamps full when the announcement was made the Bridegroom was coming, 5 had no "oil" in their lamps. In other words, the Holy Spirit was no longer present. It was to late for the "oil" now, they had lost His presence. I will now open...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    LOL, you are so full of it, my Brother!
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Are you the only witness to truth, David, or are there more of you? If there are more, by chance do they agree with you?
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Is it possible, oyster, that Miss Laura is spinning another web?
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Now that is something I can definitely agree with!
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Is my "reasoning" not conductive to walking with the Lord, or not conductive to agreeing to what David has demanded I believe?
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    LOL, our definition of "proof" is worlds apart! As long as Rev. 3:10 is in scripture the post-trib theory is under scrutiny. As long as the Church is not mentioned one single time during the Great Tribulation, that theory is under scrutiny. As long as those martyred during the Great...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    NO, I don't agree! If there were undeniable truth either way we wouldn't be arguing this subject. But some of us seem to think there is undeniable proof, and keep announcing they have it!
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    I am only human, the possibility of error is always present! Who am I to question you, David? You are perfect in all knowledge and scripture. The possibility of error does not exist with you! You've as much as said it!
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Oyster, I'm afraid we are dealing with perfect perfection in the wisdom of scripture that can't be questioned. There is no possibility at all that they could be mistaken, they have reached perfect knowledge in this doctrine and nothing can change that. They are no longer human, they are God's...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    OK, David! Just remember we are not on the same plain here! One can admit the fill in's of scripture while the other can't lower himself to that fact! With that being the case, I'm not even going to try to reason with you!