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So, how do you see all those verses fitting with the claim that when a Christian dies they go to live eternally/forever in heaven?

We are stopping off in Brisbane for four days on our way home to NZ in 9 weeks. It will be my first time in Oz outside of an airport.

Yes. After Earth is dissolved a new heaven and a new earth will be created and the heavenly city will descend onto that earth .

Actually that is NOT exactly what the Hebrew text says. The Hebrew says "Lest they keep on putting forth their hand and keep on taking and keep on eating and so keep on living into the age." It definitely does NOT speak of a one time eating producing permanent living forever.

From reading the Bypaths in the Greek New Testament series by Kenneth Wuest. He has a chapter on the distinctions between the four Greek words for love: philos, agapE, eros and storgE. Since it is a love of valuing/treasuring, it may be used in the same context as the other three loves, in...

Sorry. I had two reply windows open and the engine automatically merged my reply to Bluejeans with my developing response to you. I have now answered your question in a separate post.

PaulThomson said: Since agape love treasures that which is inherently valuable, it experiences displeasure in whatever devalues that whch is inherently valuable. So, in the case of creatures, God loves the creature for whatb is inherntly valuable in it, but hates/is displeased with th creature...

PaulThomson said: Since agape love treasures that which is inherently valuable, it experiences displeasure in whatever devalues that whch is inherently valuable. So, in the case of creatures, God loves the creature for whatb is inherntly valuable in it, but hates/is displeased with th creature...

Get hold of Wuest's "Bypaths in the Greek New Testament". There is a chapter on the four loves. He explains there that agape was a rarely unused word in classical Greek with just that meaning, which the Christians brought into common use, as it described God's kind of love. If you read the...

At the present time, they do go to heaven whiie they are waiting for the restoration of all things. But that in no way proves the claim that "we will live in heaven, not on earth, for eternity"

Well, given that Jesus is now omnipresent, that could be anywhere.

I believe that the account of Job's flawed attempt to maintain his integrity under undeserved exposure to Satan's attacks and the unwise advice of his friends, helped Jesus to avoid the same mistakes Job made when the hedge was lifted around Jesus and he was placed under undeserved trial. Job's...

Since agape love treasures that which is inherently valuable, it experiences displeasure in whatever devalues that whch is inherently valuable. So, in the case of creatures, God loves the creature for whatb is inherntly valuable in it, but hates/is displeased with th creature to the degree that...

What are the tenses of those highlighted verbs in the original Greek text in which God gave the NT? And what is the native sense of each of those verbs in the koinE Greek language?

Agape love is a love of treasuring that which is inherently valuable in the object of the love. Since Jesus is inherently infinitely perfect and therefore infinitely valuable, God's agape love for the Son is limitless and without any reservations..

I believe Christians base their beliefs on what the Bible says. Not on mere religious traditions. That's why I ask for Biblical evidence from people claiming to be Christians and claiming to be teaching Christianity.

Why do people simply throw out Bible verse references, without citing the Bible verse content, as evidence for their religious opinions, when those verses don't even mention the words or terms they are claiming they are about? Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but...

No. I gave my own answers based on scripture, compared to Rufus' answer, which like most of his answers, come from who knows where?

John 3:16 does not mention us spending eternity in heaven. Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Eph. 1 does not mention us spending eternity in heaven. 4 According as he hath...

Who cares about what God has prepared for those who love Him? Those who love Him do. Eternity in heaven? Is there a scripture that says that?