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    Understanding God’s election

    I have three adult children of my own. But it is still possible that I do not know what loving one's own children is like.
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    Understanding God’s election

    I recommend The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt. He will help you understand just how readily we are able to invent arguments in support of out prejudices, and how much in our posts can be merely automatic irrational post hoc justifications driven by disgust at the assumed wickedness of...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Some people see themselves as teachers, and see teachers as lords that the pupils must accommodate, or go away. Biblically, teachers are servant-hearted and accommodate the needs of the students. They do what they can to make understanding easier for willing learners. We shall see, relatively...
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    Understanding God’s election

    If what you are saying is true, then God does not love you. He only loves whatever is of Christ in you. He only loves Himself, because the only one He sees as worthy of His love is Himself. That is not the God the Bible describes. 1Jo 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid...
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    You obviously do not love your own children unconditionally, because you do not love all children with the same love as you have for your own children. You love children more if they are your own children. That is a conditional love. God's love for creatures is the same kind of love for every...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Provide in whatever manner you wish, the full verses you are referencing, and don't post only verse references. If you don't care enough about other posters to do that, people may eventually may find it easier just put you on ignore, rather than invest time in reading your posts only to find we...
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    Understanding God’s election

    If God does not love satan, then His love is conditional.
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    Understanding God’s election

    PaulThomson said: Well, I guess we agree. If we use your definition of ?unconditional love", God's love is unconditional. If we use my definition of "conditional love", God's love is conditional. So, does God unconditionally love satan, by your standards? Can you please give a reasonable...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Could you please show some degree of respect, and cut and past the verses you are listing. It is very rude of you to make others do all the work you should be putting in. Maybe, if you post the actual wording of the verses, everyone will immediately be able to see that they don't say what you...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Well, I guess we agree. If we use your definition of "unconditional love", God's love is unconditional. If we use my definition of "conditional love", God's love is conditional. So, does God unconditionally love satan, by your standards?
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    Your expressions of love are conditional then. If your child does this, your response is that, depending on what the "this" is. And if tyor expressions of love are conditional, the nature of the love that motivates your responses is conditional. It is expressed conditionally. If you are...
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    If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

    Luk 11:22 But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour upon which/because of which (ἐφ᾽ ᾗ) he trusted, and divideth his spoils. Rom 6:21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof/because of which (ἐφ᾽ οἷς) ye are now ashamed? for the...
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    Understanding God’s election

    You respond to and treat your children exactly the same in every circumstance, no matter what they might be doing? If that is true, you do not love your children.
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    Understanding God’s election

    conditional adjective 1. that only happens if something else is done or happens first My college admission is conditional on my getting good marks in the exams. Opposite: unconditional 2. grammar describing a situation that must exist before something else can happen. A conditional sentence...
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    Theek hai. Everyone determines what characteristics they find valuable in themselves, in others and in the world. And when they see those things, they experience agape, affection toward the person or thing that is expressing or possessing those valued traits. It is not that the lover sees...
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    They may have access to the tree of life in the millenium. There may be such trees in the land set apart for the redeemed of the tribes of Israel as per Ezekiel. Or maybe only in Jerusalem. I don't think we are told specifically that the tree of life is present in the millenium, but the...
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    No. They don't die. They have access to the tree of life. They witness the destruction of the world that is and the creation of the next world and then descend to live on and manage the new earth. They may well be able to visit heaven, but the scriptures do not tell us their home will be...
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    Understanding God’s election

    I gave scripture that speaks of us ruling with Christ on this earth for 1000 years after his return. That is certainly us not being forever in heaven after resurrection. And I gave scripture showing the new heaven and the new earth being formed and the city of God descending onto the new earth...
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    Understanding God’s election

    I did say agape is a love of treasuring what is of intrinsic value in the object of the affection. I did not use the term "based on merit". One can agape something that is meritorious, but not everything one agapes needs to be meritorious. For instance, we did not impart to ourselves the image...
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    Understanding God’s election

    I trust God. But I have not seen in scripture where our home for eternity will be heaven and not earth; purely spiritual and not physical. That idea sounds more like what Platonists and Gnostics believe.