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  1. stilllearning

    Does Romantic Love Cure Depression, Alcoholism/Drugs, Porn/Sex (Put Your Vice Here) Addiction?

    Really. I am quite convinced so. One of the things I like to do is listen to Jewish Rabbi's online. Not for anything doctrinal but for cultural understanding. When they read from the old testament and then expound upon, like I said is not anything doctrinal I will even entertain cause they...
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    What are Your Thoughts About Financially Independent Women?

    Oh not at all and was not even what I was speaking to. I try to be very deliberate when I speak in text cause some topics can ruffle feathers and I am aware of that. Which I don't seek to quarrel with anyone. I thought her question was a good one and thought so cause it is the type when asked...
  3. stilllearning

    Does Romantic Love Cure Depression, Alcoholism/Drugs, Porn/Sex (Put Your Vice Here) Addiction?

    Good question. If it does change anything I would think it would only be temporary. Cause I think most of those things are deeply seeded before we meet the romantic love. So it may be possible that it does cure for some. However, would think that it would be more of the exception than the...
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    What are Your Thoughts About Financially Independent Women?

    Interesting question ya ask there seoulsearch. Like everything reckon it is nuanced and is dependent. Thing I find myself and my male friends say the same so it is anecdotal. The majority of women that we run into that are independent or have that mindset. They are just to masculine for our...
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    The Institutional Church and Denominations--please share your experience

    What is they say most folks will die within 20 or 25 miles of where they are born. That is pretty much my personality and my church experience. Don't do much to never wandering outside to other churches. However, reckon it was about few years ago now. Late to the party finally found...
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    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    Ok thanks much appreciated just wanted to make sure I fully understood.
  7. stilllearning

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    Ok. It is all the tribulation to you so no wrath ok I have you correctly read then. So the seals, the trumpets and etc are tribulation again period. Sorry I am being laborious I just wanna make sure that you are full saying everything in Rev is tribulation save for after seal six then seal 7...
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    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    May be the way I am reading this so may be all on me but not sure what you are saying. By pre the death of Christ are we talking sin? As in we needed the death of Christ to pay that penalty? So the the wrath that is associated with sin and the penalty of death we were under but now that...
  9. stilllearning

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    I will have to get back to ya tomorrow bro if that is cool just gonna call it a eve and kick back some. I am more than willing to do so go over our different positions. I am looking to find the LCD or the lowest points that we can agree on and go from there so even if we don't ultimately agree...
  10. stilllearning

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    Would we agree that Deuteronomy 4:24 For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God. Would we agree it means just what it says our God is a jealous God and a consuming fire? Would we agree Deuteronomy 4:25 When thou shalt beget children, and children's children, and ye shall have...
  11. stilllearning

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    Interesting. I have argued as well about the chronology. To which I put forth that is what Revelation does serve in part it is a chronology. That when used as such you can actually place each prophecy or event depending on what word you wanna use and it will show the chronology or time line...
  12. stilllearning

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    I reckon this is where we have to part ways and agree to disagree as it is written can two walk together unless they agree. The seals and the trumpets are the wrath of the Lamb and it is in Revelation 11:15-18 when God the Father takes over also known as the great tribulation which will mark...
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    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    Which Zephaniah 1:14-15 says, The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. 15That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness...
  14. stilllearning

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    I am not adding to I have posted scripture to which you have failed to show me any error in interpretation. If I do be then show me accordingly. If I be in error should you not take what i have given in verse and point out how I am in error instead of declaring by your decree how I am adding...
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    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    Exactly now read 2 Thess 2:3 which says, Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; That day the day of the Lord starts after he has been revealed which is seal one. Verse...
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    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    The sixth seal is when they recognize. When they recognize does not mean when it happens. Seal one is when it starts it is the wrath of the Lamb as previously noted why chapter 5 makes a big deal why Christ alone is worthy.
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    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    The wrath starts with seal one. As I explained earlier look at Ezekiel 14 and the fourscore judgments which are clearly seals 2-4 and also how God said in Ezekiel it is his fury or do you not find fury and wrath the same thing? As well look at the Psalms I posted and how they fulfill just that...
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    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    The 6th seal is when the kings of the earth and others recognize it as so. Revelation 6:15-16 says, And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of...
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    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    So agree there are singular moments when stuff is fulfilled but Peter is plain he lays out in scripture just how long the day of the Lord is and when it wraps up. 2 Peter3:10 says, But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great...