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I agree that we are to do our best not to sin. now, you , just passing through and a few others are going on my ignore list. I am sick and tired of this fantasy world ya'll live in, that you think people here are promoting and defending sin. good buy.

once again, NO ONE IS SAYING THAT THESE THINGS ARE O>K>. jeez, man , what is your problem? go find someone who says these things, and argue with them. no one here is saying them.

and who is saying that it is o.k for believers to worship false gods or steal or bear false witness?? it seems you are arguing against non-existent things.

believe in the name of the Son and love one another. 1st John chapter 3.

the lie is this- the same man , in the same letter, after he stated keep the commands , went on to lay out what the commands are. so, to just snip out one thing that John said, and use it point anywhere one wants , is a deceptive lie, because John stated what the Commands are. but, coming from...

and the lying about Scripture goes on and on. same man, same letter, " the commands are believe in the name of the Son and love one another " you can fight against truth all you want, it does not nullify Scripture.

what is the Gospel? believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. what commands are we to obey? believe in the name of the Son and love one another. so, to believe is to obey. belief- obtains salvation. obey- what one does after one believes. does not cause nor maintain...

um, the opposite of west? lol!

lightbearer thinks one has to keep the Sabbath to be saved. he used to talk about it, until I began calling him out, then he stopped , and started to deny saying it. so, it is ongoing thing with him and i

Sabbath? yes? no? maybe? been waiting for weeks for you to clarify your stance on Sabbath keeping, you have yet to do so.

believe- to think to be true, to place confidence in, to be persuaded of. obey- to submit what is heard, to change one's conduct to God's standards. 'so, no, they do not mean the same thing. one ( belief ) produces salvation. one ( obey ) is done as a RESULT of belief.

and what did Jesus command? love each other as I have loved you. Jesus said to believe in Him. so, to love and believe is to obey.

I teach believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. that is the Gospel.

ah, maybe some common ground. we are to do and not do these things. as long as one understands that we do them because we are saved, not to earn or maintain said salvation.

I agree. now, if you would just accept that John said the commands that we are to obey are believe in the name of the Son and love one another....

Romans 5- " the free gift is not like the offense." and, of course ... " not of ourselves, it is the gift of God". I could go on, but this is enough to prove that some do not know what they are talking about.

the only crisis we are facing is the attempted move to push into socialism, with open borders, and a green new deal, to combat non-existent climate change. I could also add, many folks in this country are foolish enough to think that polar bears can't swim and carbon dioxide is bad for the...

hey, you never answered my questions from a couple of weeks ago. i'll remind you- I said that you think one has to keep the Sabbath to be saved. you said you do not say that. I said o.k., then one can choose to keep the twilight fri. to sat. Sabbath, or rest one day a week, which God modeled...

remember, fran thinks " believe " means " obey ". ( though they are 2 totally greek words with different definitions)

the person in denial would be you. it has been pointed out to you numerous times that the same man , in the same letter, said after speaking about keeping the commands goes on to say that the commands are to believe in the name of the Son and love one another. believing in Jesus is obeying ...