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Gee... that's odd. The "first mention" principle was never "mentioned" in my seminary classes where principles of hermeneutics were taught. I have since come across texts declaring it utter hogwash, which is where I land on the matter.

Further, I find your attempt to claim that the NASV words are ‘difficult and archaic’ simply ridiculous. Every single one of those words is in my active vocabulary.

Interesting choice; one which disproves your point perfectly. There was one KJV-only advocate on this forum who believed that ‘bottles’ in the KJV meant glass containers. His stubborn insistence on the accuracy of the KJV actually hindered his ability to understand it. Even where the words...

Nice to see you’re still missing the point.

When a post begins with (some variant of) “the Bible doesn’t mean what it says”, I can’t help being a bit skeptical of what follows.

Which I explained, and I have since clarified my point.

The thread title either seems disconnected from the verses quoted, or a pretext for an argument. Perhaps you could clarify your point?

If you had understood mine, you would not have needed to make yours.

With regard to fasting specifically, I would encourage you to read the relevant chapter in Richard Foster’s Celebration of Discipline.

A word of caution: when using a 400-year-old translation, don’t assume that key words mean today what they meant at the time the translation was developed.

Look at the examples in post 74. The fact that they may be understood by some people is completely irrelevant. The word of God should not be limited to some people who happen to have received training in a specific and narrow field. I wrote what I meant and don’t need to modify it so that you...

You're asking a KJV-only advocate to be logical? smh... ;)

This reminds me of some ridiculous claptrap distributed about 30 years ago. Someone was trying to point to a link between Christianity and ancient Greek false gods, with a few blurry photographs as the only evidence. As this photo does not have a source, any proof of who made the image (and...

Welcome to CC, Alice... I admire your zeal and appreciate your desire to see others free of their junk. I have a concern though; I must question whether you have the spiritual authority to cut complete strangers free from curses without them being involved.

It's a blatant contradiction, not merely an "apparent" one as you claim. The reconciliation you offer is irrelevant, because you refuse to stop calling out similar issues in other translations. Stop the hypocrisy.

The Jews were under the Law; nobody else was.

If you haven’t already, read Josephus’ Wars of the Jews.

Dodging the issue.

Welcome to CC, Liverpool… May I suggest this: focus on growing in Christ, ask Him to change you as He sees fit, and stop trying to win the approval of your family. When they see the changes in you that Christ brings about, they will respond. Trying to restore relationships with them before they...

With respect to you, you’re completely missing the point. The plain text has a contradiction. John146 refuses to admit this while harping on similar issues in other translations and rejecting comparable explanations. The problem is his persistent hypocrisy.