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  1. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    The problem is the same that it is with many others. Jesus said that believers would have trials and tribulation, which comes at the hands of men and the powers of darkness. However, what is coming is the unprecedented wrath of God. It is this wrath that believers are not appointed to suffer...
  2. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    Greetings JamOn! When that ruler, the antichrist, establishes his seven year covenant with Israel, they will build their temple and begin to sacrifice again according to the law. The reason for this is that, in Daniel 9:24 seventy 'sevens' (seventy seven year periods) were decreed upon Israel...
  3. Ahwatukee

    A QUESTION ON ETERNAL HELL

    What it means is, if one accepts God's provision for salvation, then that person is credited with righteousness and is reconciled to God. Anyone who does not accept God's provision for salvation, but attempts to enter in another way (like doing going good works), are not saved and are not...
  4. Ahwatukee

    A QUESTION ON ETERNAL HELL

    well then, it needs to. And that because if those in heaven were still crying and mourning for unsaved loved ones, then the scripture could not be true, could it? The fact is that, those loved ones will have made the decision themselves to not accept God's plan of salvation through faith in His...
  5. Ahwatukee

    A QUESTION ON ETERNAL HELL

    Dibby53, I would suggest that you search out the scriptures again, because what I am seeing by your posts is that a person can be saved by performing good works, which is false. "doing tremendously good things" will not get anyone into heaven. As far as God is concerned, those good things that...
  6. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    Thank you for saying so. And you as well, Absolutely! Continue contending for the truth.
  7. Ahwatukee

    A QUESTION ON ETERNAL HELL

    "He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the former things have passed away.” You've just seen it! Wiping ever tear from the eyes of the righteous and their being no more mourning or pain, would include any feelings that...
  8. Ahwatukee

    A QUESTION ON ETERNAL HELL

    Hello Dibby53, He sounds like a great friend. The problem is that, we cannot not saved by good works. God's word has already told us that our righteousness are as unclean rags. The only way to obtain eternal life is by trusting in Christ as the One who provided salvation for us. As the...
  9. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    Good day calibob, you are correct in that the tribulation will be seven years in length, with the last 3 1/2 years referred to as the great tribulation. This takes place when the abomination is set up in the holy place within the temple. I don't know how you arrived at the dates that you posted...
  10. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    John's reference to "a woman sitting on a scarlet beast" is referring to that last day false church system which will be afforded by the emergence of the antichrist. The reference to the woman being that great city that rules over the kings of the earth and the fact that this city sits on...
  11. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    Hello DeighAnn, The above is in error, as that would be pretty easy to prove since the police and other agencies have had bodies successfully exhumed even after years of being burried. As far as the event of the rich man and Lazarus, the scripture states that both men physically died and their...
  12. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    The following is where I believe the gathering of the church will take place in the chronological order of Revelation: In Revelation 1:19, John was told to write: What you have seen = Everything written from Rev.1:1 to 1:19 What is now = Represented by the letters to the seven churches and...
  13. Ahwatukee

    A QUESTION ON ETERNAL HELL

    Hello again Dibby53, In regards to your last sentence, it is important to understand that though God is indeed a God of love, He is also a God of righteous judgment. Too many people make Him out as just being a cosmic teddy bear. Regarding eternal damnation, it should build you up knowing...
  14. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    The problem with the resurrection and the living being changed and caught up when the seventh trumpet is sounded is that, it would put the living church through 2/3's of God's wrath, which believers are not appointed to suffer. This idea of the seventh trumpet as being the "last trumpet"...
  15. Ahwatukee

    A QUESTION ON ETERNAL HELL

    It is not a comfort to you presently. However, after you have become immortal and glorified, those things will no longer matter to you or any believer. As the scripture states, the former things will have passed away. You are not comforted now, because you are still mortal. But after you have...
  16. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    Good day calibob! In the book of Revelation, it states the following: "The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants what things it behooves to take place in quickness." (Interlinear) "The things to take place" are the plagues of God's wrath which is will be...
  17. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    All of the promises written within each letter to the seven churches, are to applied to every believer of every church. They are not only to be adhered to by the church that it was addressed to. To be clear, all of rebukes to a specific church are directed to every believer throughout the entire...
  18. Ahwatukee

    A QUESTION ON ETERNAL HELL

    "He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the former things have passed away." At that time, we will be immortal and glorified and the former things will not even enter our minds. Those of our relatives who end up condemned...
  19. Ahwatukee

    WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?

    Greetings Sackcloth, The understanding of the gathering of the church/bride taking place prior to the tribulation period, i.e. the time of God's wrath, is deduced by the fact that scripture states that believers are not appointed to suffer God's wrath and that because Jesus already suffered it...