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  1. Ahwatukee

    THE "MILLENNIUM" VS THE PRESENT KINGDOM OF GOD

    No it doesn't! Because, after the Millennial kingdom, God creates a new heaven and earth and new Jerusalem and Jesus continues to sit on His throne of glory from that time forward.
  2. Ahwatukee

    Is conspiracy, 'Mark of the Beast,' an unhealthy obsession for Christians?

    Hello WhyNotAsk, Do you really think that John is going to know what a car, plane, the internet, TV and satellites are, or even how to describe them? He doesn't have any technology to compare to what he was seeing, which is why he described the mark of the beast as a "Mark." However, I believe...
  3. Ahwatukee

    Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

    And you ignore what is happening before your very eyes. As believers in Christ, we are no longer under the torah/law. We are saved by grace through faith and not by our own efforts. It is the gift of God. Anyone who is trusting in the law for salvation will not inherit the kingdom of God...
  4. Ahwatukee

    Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

    God bless you for also having this insight. I keep imagining these people who think that the mark is observing the Sabbath on Sunday, patting themselves on the back while they wait in line to get their literal mark so that they can buy and sell. Same with these guys thinking that the mark is...
  5. Ahwatukee

    Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

    Well, you can keep on thinking that. However, I am going to continue watching the evolution of this in the same way that I have for the last 45 years. I study this stuff. I was draw to it when I first came to Christ. I am not just giving you a assumed possibility. I know what is happening. The...
  6. Ahwatukee

    Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

    Jesus came to fulfill the Torah, bringing it to its closure, not to perpetuate it. The same fact remains that mankind is unable to fulfill the law. Jesus came and fulfilled it for those who would believe. Those who do not believe will be judged by it. But regarding the law, have you never read...
  7. Ahwatukee

    Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

    Really?! As soon as even one real star hit the earth, the rest of the prophesies in the book of Revelation could not be fulfilled and that because the earth would no longer exist. Nor would there be a millennial kingdom for Christ to rule from on this present earth. It doesn't mean that they...
  8. Ahwatukee

    Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

    As long as that tattoo has the ability to perform electronic crediting and debiting to ones bank account, it doesn't matter to me what it ends up being. I do know however without a doubt the mark is going to run on the current electronic crediting and debiting system that is in place. Instead...
  9. Ahwatukee

    Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

    What does the Torah have do with the rest of the people of the earth who are Gentiles. They would not be abiding by the Torah. And yet, the scripture states that he will cause all, both great and small, rich and poor, free and slave to receive the mark. That means all people, not just Israel...
  10. Ahwatukee

    Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

    As far as the "stars falling from heaven," you have to once again think from a 2000 year old time frame. Everything in the sky except for the sun and the moon was considered a star, which would include asteroids, meteorites, comets, etc. There were no scientific classifications for bodies in the...
  11. Ahwatukee

    Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

    That is all based on supposed EMP's being fired. I don't see that anywhere in scripture. Regarding technology, what do you make of the second trumpet, when it says that a third of the ships are destroyed? That would include technological military ships. There will be technology during the...
  12. Ahwatukee

    Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

    And if I might ask, what are you using to make your daily purchases, if not paper money? According to your interpretation, the apostles and the first century church are all guilty of the taking the mark of the beast: "On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of...
  13. Ahwatukee

    Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

    The correct way to read the book of Revelation is that, "If the literal sense makes good plain sense, then don't seek any other sense." That said, there is nothing in the context which would lead the reader to apply a symbolic interpretation. Within the context we have reference to the literal...
  14. Ahwatukee

    Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

    Where do I get that idea? All you have to do is look around. Electronic crediting and debiting is where the world has been going for some time now. Purchases are being done via card swiping and cell phone bank apps, etc., opposed to the use of cash. When someone needs to have money put back to...
  15. Ahwatukee

    Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

    So, your going to ignore the current technology of a literal device being implanted on or under the skin of the hand which is and will be used for electronic crediting and debiting? How can what I am believing be absurd when it fits perfectly with the prophecy? Prophecy: "And the second beast...
  16. Ahwatukee

    Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

    Whatever the mark eventually becomes, it will be in the right hand or forehead and will allow people to electronically credit or debit their bank accounts. So, get off the RFID chip. I was using that as the current technology, which will continue to evolve. The mark could just as easily end up...
  17. Ahwatukee

    Hello I'm a student of Christ

    Greetings bibleprophecy and Welcome! What did Jesus say about this? "You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes His sun to rise on...
  18. Ahwatukee

    Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

    So, you're willing rather to adopt and support the false teaching of paper money and flat currency as the mark, opposed to the technology of making electronic purchases with a device under the skin, which is supported by scripture? Amazing! I just hope that you won't be standing in line to have...
  19. Ahwatukee

    Paper Money and Fiat Currency is the Mark of the Beast

    Just keep watching and you will soon begin to see people paying for things by the scan of their hands. It's already being done in Sweden and here sister countries, as well as here in the US.