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  1. Ahwatukee

    Why was the Rich man in Hades?

    Simply because that is where the spirits of the righteous went at the time of death which was that place of comfort where Abraham and Lazarus and all the other OT saints went to. Please stop regarding Abraham's bosom as a location. Lazarus was simply taken to Abraham's side which was in the...
  2. Ahwatukee

    Christ is God

    Yes, I know what Immanuel means "God with us," which also listed in the post. Then you simply did not read my listing of everywhere that Jesus is referred to as God. I would suggest that you go back and read all of the scriptures that I provided that refer to Jesus as being God. Blessings!
  3. Ahwatukee

    Christ is God

    Hello posthuman! I created the following document some time ago with all of the scriptures which directly or indirectly proclaim Jesus as being God. ===================================================================== Isaiah 7:14 - Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin...
  4. Ahwatukee

    Hell, Sheol, Hades, etc...

    You are correct. But they are also representing the churches through the entire church period with those same characteristics. I don't have difficulty understanding that the 7th angel with his trumpet is not the last trumpet where the church is gathered and that for the reasons I gave you. If...
  5. Ahwatukee

    Eternal Life, Life eternal

    Good day Hungry! Just fyi, the wicked will also be resurrected and receive an indestructible body, albeit mete for their punishment. For scripture states the following: "And many who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake, some to everlasting life, but others to shame and everlasting...
  6. Ahwatukee

    Hell, Sheol, Hades, etc...

    I consider all the translations and use them all in my studies. Just referring to the KJV is restricting your studies. Don't you think that God is able to use scholars and translators to bring us better translations? That is why it is good to compare them. By the way, there is no Ephesus age or...
  7. Ahwatukee

    Hell, Sheol, Hades, etc...

    What I have been trying to tell you is that, the area is not called Abraham's Bosom, as that is not the proper name for the place, but that Lazarus was taken to Abraham side/bosom. The entire place is sheol/Hades which was/is divided into two areas, that place of comfort and the place of torment...
  8. Ahwatukee

    Hell, Sheol, Hades, etc...

    Revelation 1:19 is the key to understanding the chronology of Revelation, when John was told to write: What you have seen = Everything recorded from Rev.1:1 thru Rev.1:19 What is now = Represented by the letters to the seven churches, which also represents the entire church period What will...
  9. Ahwatukee

    Hell, Sheol, Hades, etc...

    While it is a tragedy, the same thing that happened to the rich man takes place 24/7. The spirits of the unsaved continue to pour into Sheol/Hades day and night in mass quantities. Your comparison is not equal. The phrase "their cries reached to the gates of heaven" simply means that it was a...
  10. Ahwatukee

    Hell, Sheol, Hades, etc...

    Your example is hyperbolic, meaning that what happened was a great tragedy and their response was as such. Although, I'm sure that those in heaven, God and the angels were aware of it.
  11. Ahwatukee

    Hell, Sheol, Hades, etc...

    Here's a good example of what I am talking about: King James Bible He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints...
  12. Ahwatukee

    Hell, Sheol, Hades, etc...

    Well, since all of the translations say pretty much the same thing and the words Abraham's Bosom is not a proper name for that place, but is describing Lazarus at Abraham's side, I would say that each of those translations are valid. The KJV is not a good translation to begin with. We much...
  13. Ahwatukee

    Hell, Sheol, Hades, etc...

    While it is true that the seventh angel has the last of the seven trumpets, that seventh trumpet could not be construed as the "last trumpet" that Paul was speaking of. For one, Revelation hadn't been revealed yet. And two, the "last trumpet" signals the resurrection and catching up of the...
  14. Ahwatukee

    Hell, Sheol, Hades, etc...

    Well, if you have Abraham and the rich man having a conversation and they can see each other and are separated by a great chasm, would you not agree that they are in the same area, with one side being a place of comfort and the other a place of torment in flame? This is easy to deduce.
  15. Ahwatukee

    Hell, Sheol, Hades, etc...

    Well, wait a minute! You said that Hell was not used in reference to the lake of fire. So, let's agree that hell was and is used to refer to the lake of fire. I agree with you that the lake of fire is the final place of punishment. However, our issue here is that Hades, Tartartus and Gehenna are...
  16. Ahwatukee

    Hell, Sheol, Hades, etc...

    Once again, "Abraham's Bosom" is not a proper name for the place where Abraham and Lazarus were. What the verse says is that Lazarus was taken to Abraham's side. Then as we read the context, we find that the rich man went to Hades and was able to see and speak with Abraham. The rich man was in...
  17. Ahwatukee

    Hell, Sheol, Hades, etc...

    I started out with the KJV and read it for years and then went to the NIV. And for many years now, I compare verses in parallel to see the other translations. Why restrict yourself to one translation when you can study all of them, which in turn gives you a better understanding of what is being...
  18. Ahwatukee

    Hell, Sheol, Hades, etc...

    Yes the word hell is used to refer to the lake of fire. I provided the scripture for you in a previous post! Here it is again: "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. - KJV The word...
  19. Ahwatukee

    Hell, Sheol, Hades, etc...

    What I know is that Jesus told the thief on the cross that he would be with Him in paradise that very same day, i.e. their spirits. I also know that when Jesus resurrected He told Mary not to hold on to Him because He had not yet ascended to the Father. Therefore, the paradise that I believe...