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    GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

    Can you point out where I "denied" the scriptures. I actually posted the scriptures that you yourself, did not. I wrote them out for all to see that there is simple no mention at all, of Jesus "keeping the Sabbath". Is going to a synagogue to teach, a commandment of the Sabbath? If so, do...
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    GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

    Those are scripture references, not scriptures. Here is what a scripture is - He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making...
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    GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

    Please provide the scriptures where Jesus kept the Sabbath. JPT
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    Literally Return?

    27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, 28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation. Hebrews 9:27-28 He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for...
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    GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

    The Covenant the Lord made with Abraham. The covenant requirements: walk before Me and be blameless. When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the Lord appeared to Abram and said to him, “I am Almighty God; walk before Me and be blameless. 2 And I will make My covenant between Me and you, and...
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    GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

    Here is "how" God's 4th commandment was observed under the law of Moses. 14 You shall keep the Sabbath, therefore, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. 15 Work shall...
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    Oh goody another OSAS thread!

    Amen Ralph. This foundational principle of salvation couldn't be any more clear. Believe = Saved Believe for a while = Saved for a while. Why anyone could come up with the idea that someone who no longer believes, still retains the same benefit as those who faithfully believe to end, is...
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    Oh goody another OSAS thread!

    The context refers to His disciples, His 12 Apostles. 11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are. 12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your...
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    Oh goody another OSAS thread!

    Please stop taking what Jesus said out of context, and mis-applying it to mean all people. This is exactly how false doctrine is spread throughout the body of Christ by unlearned people who love to hear what their itching ears want to hear. 11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in...
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    Oh goody another OSAS thread!

    26 The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, ‘Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.’ 27 Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt. 28 “But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a...
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    Oh goody another OSAS thread!

    Again, the biblical condition for being saved, is to believe. 12 Those by the wayside are the ones who hear; then the devil comes and takes away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.13 But the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear, receive the word with...
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    GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

    OK. I have been asking for someone who is a Sabbath Keeper to provide the scriptures where Jesus taught us how to observe the Sabbath, under the New Covenant, and specifically where He commanded us to gather on the Sabbath to worship the Lord. None so far. JPT
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    GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

    So true. Why would someone want to worship and obey the shadow, when the substance is here? JPT
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    Oh goody another OSAS thread!

    So now you are saying there is something more than believing that is required to be saved. Please share what that is. JPT
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    GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

    How does the New Testament teach us to observe the Sabbath under the New Covenant? Is it right for those who work in full time ministry, serving the Church, to work on the Sabbath to has a Church service, to honor a man made command, when the Sabbath was made for man to rest? Can you see how...
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    GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

    Observed in the way God originally gave it before the law of Moses was added. Which is the Sabbath was made for man to rest one day a week. Is it right for those who work in full time ministry, serving the Church, to work on the Sabbath to has a Church service, to honor a man made command...
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    Oh goody another OSAS thread!

    No sir. You are denying the simple and plain text of the scripture. It plainly does not say "never believed". Jesus said they "believed" for a while. 13 But the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, who believe for a while and in...
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    GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

    Of course. The Sabbath was made for man... to have a day of rest. The weekly Sabbath points to the rest to come, when Jesus returns and destroys all the enemies of God's kingdom. We will then enjoy the prophesied rest with our Lord for 1000 years, which is the 7th prophetic Day of rest...
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    GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

    I can agree that the Sabbath was made for man to rest. I never said Jesus abolished the ten commandments. What I have said is the law of Moses was abolished and the WAY the Sabbath is observed has changed, in which it is no longer kept the way the children of Israel kept it while under the...