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    Not By Works

    Yes. What’s shocking is you don’t seem to understand that I didn’t come up with the example of the pregnant woman. I just simply stated a real truth about people and the choices they make. Sorry you don’t like truth. JPT
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    Not By Works

    Go back and read what I said. The pregnant woman chose to abort her child. Likewise a Christian can choose the depart from Christ. JPT
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    Not By Works

    That's right good example. A woman is pregnant. She carries her baby for a while, then has an abortion. She is no longer pregnant. Thanks for making my point. JPT
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    Amen. Jesus explains. 45 “Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season? 46 Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing. 47 Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all...
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    Please just address the post I made with the scriptures I gave. Please stop attacking me. JPT
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    What is the Gospel?

    Amen. Jesus preached the Gospel of the kingdom. JPT
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    Not By Works

    I am presenting the plain and clear words of Jesus Christ. I'm asking for discussion from those who desire the truth, not desire to cover their "doctrine". 12 Those by the wayside are the ones who hear; then the devil comes and takes away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe...
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    Not By Works

    Option 1 = Believe and be saved Option 2 = Believe for a while, and be saved for a while. Option meaning you choose to opt to do. Those who do nothing, have the seed stolen and there is no change in their condition, because they opted to do nothing. JPT
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    Not By Works

    How does a person become saved, according to Jesus? lest they should believe and be saved. These in the first group, had the seed, the message of the Gospel, stolen from the hearts, and never believed. If they would have believed, then they would have been saved. lest they should...
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    Not By Works

    The reason the Christians are being persecuted, is they are Christians; Believers. Remember, your doctrine teaches that the moment a person believes, they are saved. 12 Those by the wayside are the ones who hear; then the devil comes and takes away the word out of their hearts, lest they...
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    Not By Works

    No one has forgotten that. Is this what you believe? So you are saying that a person who believes for a while, then falls away, was never saved in the first place? 12 Those by the wayside are the ones who hear; then the devil comes and takes away the word out of their hearts, lest they...
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    How To Understand Romans Chapter 9

    There is no such thing as being predestined for salvation. Romans 9 is clear. I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, 2 that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were accursed from...
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    What is the Gospel?

    Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand. That is the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, and is the only Gospel. Paul preached the same Gospel. JPT
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    Not By Works

    Ok. So you are saying that a person who believes for a while, then falls away, was never saved in the first place? 12 Those by the wayside are the ones who hear; then the devil comes and takes away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.13 But the ones on the rock...
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    Not By Works

    That is option 1, and is called believing. JPT
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    Not By Works

    You have posted no truth, only accusations and the denial of the scriptures that I present. Please just stick to discussing and posting the scriptures, and let's have a civil, fruitful conversation. 9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all...
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    Again, you plainly reject the truth of scripture, in favor of your "doctrine". 21 And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled 22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight—...
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    Not By Works

    Matthew 24:13 and Luke 8:13, and Matthew 13:20-21 are all the same context. Enduring/believing to the end while under persecution. In Matthew 24;13, especially it's during the great tribulation. But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately...
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    Not By Works

    21 And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled 22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight— 23 if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not...
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    Not By Works

    Please read these plain words from Jesus - But he who endures to the end shall be saved. Matthew 24:13 Those by the wayside are the ones who hear; then the devil comes and takes away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. But the ones on the rock are those...