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The seed is not removed. It simply doesn’t bear fruit.

Fruit does not have a will at all. Not in the natural, and not in the spiritual.

Because I’m not interested in getting sidetracked.

Let’s not go down that rabbit trail right now.

Wrong. The Holy Spirit indwells the believer FULLY at the time of salvation. Salvation is a point-in-time event, and though there is a process around it, the ‘new mind, new heart’ begins immediately. By the way, the human will is not “broken” but rather surrendered and transformed.

You are stubborn in your misunderstanding and misrepresentation of this issue. What you keep missing is that the indwelling Holy Spirit guides the believer in right living such that he/she may remain in right standing with God. The Torah is not the standard of behaviour for the Christian.

That’s simply wrong. God’s will doesn't supplant the human will when the person is saved. Rather, the Holy Spirit indwells the person and makes it possible for the person to obey God’s will while also making God’s will known to the person. The person is still free and able to do otherwise.

It doesn’t. It also doesn’t say in the Bible that some bacteria cause disease, but it is true nonetheless.

Still avoiding the elephant in the room, I see.

Apparently you don’t have a sense of humour but are happy to make grossly unwarranted assumptions about people of whom you know nothing whatsoever. Lighten up.

I’m not missing anything. YOU are still missing the point… badly. You said this: “ We should follow the Torah to the extent that we are able to obey it and we are not required to obey commands that can't currently be obeyed.” I quoted Galatians 3:10 which CLEARLY refutes your error. Now...

Miss the point much?

What time is dinner? I’ll bring the mint, cumin, and dill. 😜

This is indeed a Christian forum, but you will see from this thread that some people who believe themselves to be Christians are advocating that Christians must obey the entire Torah. Don’t blame me for the stupid stuff that others post.

Desire is irrelevant to the discussion.

The verse in the pic is irrelevant to our discussion.

FAIL! “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do EVERYTHING written in the Book of the Law.”“ ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3‬:‭10‬.

You might want to drop the “duh” until you do some research. The Torah requires that you… - get circumcised - pay a tithe on your crops and farm animals - attend the temple festivals three times a year in Jerusalem - stone adulterers - bring animals for slaughter to the temple in Jerusalem...

So are you admitting that Christians are not obligated to follow the Torah?

You're trying to apply a general definition of a term in a specific context. It doesn't fit. Use the specific definition and it will all make sense.