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Thank you, I did. Well, I suppose they convinced me not.

Yes, I agree with you. Btw i have Dr. Walvoords Comentarys for the OT and NT

Well, God revealed Moses not as Jesus Christ, who was born from Mary. Yes Mose met Jesus together with Elia and Peter, John and Jakob on the Mount. But not in the time when he lived on earth.

We talk about Martin Luther

Well, this was not my point. The point is that the OT believers had not the Holy Spirit given like we have today since the day of Pentecost.

I would say, his body is to dust ( after 500 years) not in the grave. You say the early Christians never heared from Jesus? You have been there? To me it sounds that you are spreading false teachings.

Well, this is correct. Thank you for correction.

Come on you are not realy believe that Serapis has anything to do with our Lord Jesus.

Yes, we got a free gift, but this means not that the conditions from the OT and NT believer are the same. Would you ask Abraham ore Moses to put there faith in Jesus Christ, they must say : we dont know him. Of course at the end the OT believer is in eternity like the NT believer. But to say...

Angela, is husband standing for a he ore a she?

The day of Pentecost is not the day of Explosion, its the day of birth of the church. The people of the OT are saved not because they believed in Jesus, because they did not know Him. They trustet God. So there you cant find a Christian in the OT. So it is wrong to say that the OT believers had...

Well, with free church (Freikirche) are called all denominations out of RCC and Protestant church. Normally the believer in this Freechurches are bornagain, they teach it. So this is a very sad and shocking statement. When even those who you count to be believer do not believe that Jesus in risen.

He isnt in, but if then he would :-)

You forgot the german bibles :-)

Maby you listening to the wrong people, instead of reading the word of God.

I must not try again. You Was talking from 1. Cor.12, 28 :-) But doesnt matter, you cant proof me with any verse that it is biblical that woman become pastor/leader/eldest of a church. The reason for that lays in genesis 3 and not in the lack of gifts/knowledge/wisdom.

Someone can have this gift, without beeing Pastor/eldest/leader of a church. And this both gifts are not enough for to be a Pastor

What you understand under pastoral gift?

Sorry brother, neither 1.Cor. 12,8 nor 1. Cor.12,28 is talking about woman can be Pastor/leader/eldest of the church. You have to put your meaning into the text. But you cant get it out of the text.

Pentecost was the beginning of the worlwide church. Body of Christ. This was not before Pentecost. So in this sense Abraham is not a member of the NT church. And the theme of this thread is not faith.