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I would highly suggest you read the entire chapter and understand the whole context before using one verse.

To disregard the experiences and wisdom of elderly patrons is a grievous sin. How you do attract young people? Give them something the world has never offered. Truth! In my opinion the Methodist Church become an apostate entity long ago. This doesn’t surprise me.

The second death is yet to come. Only after The Great White Throne Judgement will spiritual death actually occur.

One would have to believe the thief was in Paradise. Speaking of the heart of Earth or Sheol is a spiritual state of being which is not of time and space. As 1 Peter 3:19 indicated “He spoke to the Spirits in prison”. Trying to explain or truly understand this is impossible for us to do.

Thanks for posting

I’m going to say “ Thank you Lord for letting me find Jerzy’s posts boring” 😇

Right, but eventually he will be in Heaven. So would it be apperent that Jesus was offering grace prior to the His death and resurrection?

I think we both agree on that.

So the Physical Kingdom will only be for Jewish How was the thief saved? When he asked Jesus to remember him when He entered Kingdom(Jesus hadn’t died yet) was that because of belief in the Kingdom or who he believed Jesus was?

Would it be your contention that only after Jesus died and resurrected salvation was offered?

Now what about if he wasn’t? Where is the atonement?

That didn’t include grace?

So Jesus was speaking of a spiritual Kingdom. Of course we agree on that. Again I would like to ask that if a man is born a Jew, but becomes a believer, would he be with Christ? If not, how could he go to Sheol if there are no more Levitical sacrifices? How is atonement made?

That’s not addressing the confusion aspect. In fact it’s give more confusion.

When will the restoration of the Kingdom be?

That is correct, but why would that matter to Gentiles?

This is where the lines become blurred. Paul would have had to carried the burden of multiple truths. God only has one truth, and that is Jesus. That applies to Jews and Gentiles the same. Jesus’s never told the Jewish’s that he would establish a physical Kingdom during His time on Earth. That...

Basically God would be two different Gods. One God for Jews and One God for Gentiles. Scripture never alluded to this. I think that would cause mass confusion. Not to mention it would go against the fact that we are all equal in Christ

That he did, but he also use OT scripture to speak to the Gentiles. Why would he do that if it had nothing to do with their salvation?

You have agree that using someone who was not Jewish would be more appropriate if there are two gospels. That way there would be a clear distinction and not to mix the two.