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Thank you for sharing. While I don’t deny these things happen, I can’t confirm it is as wide spread as many say it is. Have I seen healing that cannot be explained other than supernatural? Yes. Was this due to laying of the hands? No, it came through prayer. When you said someone read your...

I get that, but what does that have to do with the conversation?

Huh?

I think I have address my position and provide as to why. Let’s not get off on topic with regards to other scripture. You said that you have experienced these things. That would give someone the belief they are true. What have you experienced?

You can’t conflate scripture like that. Specific things were for a specific people. Would you say that a rebellious son still needs to be stoned by his parents? Of course not. Same can be applied to other scripture. The Gospels though are meant for humans as a whole.

What prophecy and gifts is that you see? Also when I am taking about an observational premise is, I haven’t seen for myself and nor do I see it as being needed as the church has been solidified.

When Paul wrote that letter, the Church was still in it’s infancy. It was needed as the Church was still small and under heavy persecution. And why would those start up again during the tribulation? Well that should be pretty obvious. You keep asking for scripture, and I provided some. Can you...

If it is still operation, why are there no new revelations from God? Who are these prophets/apostles? The early Church needed these “Gifts” to be seen in order to validate the Gospel. There was no Bible at that time. Paul whom was probably the greatest Apostle had to have a supernatural...

The biggest evidence is that you don’t see things like occurring anymore. Again, if anyone claims to have these gifts, I really have to call that into question. It’s not just a theory. I base it on a observational premise. What would be your view of a prophecy?

God would speak directly to the Prophets. Jesus spoke directly to the Apostles. The gifts of the Spirit were given because the Gospels nor the Epistles has been codified as of yet. God gave His revelation concerning man. There is no additional information He is proclaiming. We received His...

Paul alludes to the notion of the responsibilities of the Church Deacons and Overseers. No mention of Apostles or Prophets. 1 Timothy 1 Corinthians. Is there a reason you would assume that there still are Apostles or Prophets? If so, how are the commissioned?

The Five Fold Ministry is not a sound doctrine as we are no longer living in an Apostatical Age. There is no need for Apostles or Prophets as God have given His word.

Not if you’re in Bethel Church.

The 5 Fold Ministry is an offshoot of the Charismatic Movement.

I had a friend whom passed away a few years ago. She was a women who truly believed in the word of the Lord, but she also was very much into the “5 Fold Ministry”. Of course we had our conversations about that to which I did have my objections. What are your thoughts on that particular doctrine?

When talking of the gifts of the Spirit, it can become controversial. In that I mean not from a scriptural point of view, but of a false one. There are many people who claim to have theses gifts, but many are proven to be fake(YouTube is full of them) When people make the claim, I have to use...

Yes, the predestination of the elect. Of course you would have some argue that nullifies the term “Free Will” which doesn’t make sense since God is beyond time and space.

You are correct. There are too many differing Can someone have the Holy Spirit brought to them outside of reading the Bible?

The Methodist church is like the dying “Fig Tree”. It’s has produced any fruit in some time. Of course I’m sure they still want tithes/offerings. Such a disgrace.

I already had an OP thread about the Sabbath. Still, I don’t take issue with Christians watching football.