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    When did (will) Jesus open the first seal in Rev. 6 and what does it represent?

    it didn’t end in failure brother Sure it did. You are not reading it closely. 3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. 4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look...
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    Explain why john saw this huge crowd, too large to number, in chapter 7, when John does not start the 70th week until the 7th seal and does not arrive at the midpoint until the 7th seal and does not start the days of great tribulation that Jesus spoke of until late in chapter 14?
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    50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord

    I could write it like this and be just as accurate: "Since there is no evidence in the Bible at all for post-trib" What you meant to say is that you can't find the evidence that millions of other believers see. Other Greek texts say "the Day of the Lord." Which is right? I go with Day of the...
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    When did (will) Jesus open the first seal in Rev. 6 and what does it represent?

    The only reason that you reject this, as do others, is because it doesn't fit in with your interpretation. This is how it is with many. They adopt a teaching and they can receive no other message and reject it when some one comes along with the true answer. The switch from church (chapters 1...
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    When did (will) Jesus open the first seal in Rev. 6 and what does it represent?

    Never happen. I am sure God can count. 6 always comes before 7. Perhaps you have some proof?
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    When did (will) Jesus open the first seal in Rev. 6 and what does it represent?

    I have no doubt that you believe it is truth. Most people on Christian forms think they have a "corner" on truth. Perhaps it is you who needs further study on this Greek word. it CAN mean to violently snatch. I agree. But it certainly can mean to pull away without violence. 2Co 12:4 How...
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    When did (will) Jesus open the first seal in Rev. 6 and what does it represent?

    I'm still waiting for someone to answer the questions Jesus asked me in post #33. I could not answer them after weeks of diligent study.
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    When did (will) Jesus open the first seal in Rev. 6 and what does it represent?

    You did well here. I want to add to it. 12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; (Revelation 6) (Emphasis added) We all should know what causes the moon to appear blood...
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    When did (will) Jesus open the first seal in Rev. 6 and what does it represent?

    I just found this: There are only 287 extant Greek manuscripts of Revelation in comparison with 2361 of the Gospels, https://www.kjvtoday.com/home/revelation I am confident that the first seal was opened around 32 AD. It is the context. If you believed John's context, you would agree. I think...
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    When did (will) Jesus open the first seal in Rev. 6 and what does it represent?

    I don't think so. The way John wrote it, it seems that AS a seal is opened, THEN stuff happens. John heard "come and see." It seems then he saw and wrote what he saw. Any theory that tries to rearrange John's numbered events will certainly be proven wrong. The numbers (1-7) came from the...
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    When did (will) Jesus open the first seal in Rev. 6 and what does it represent?

    "Us" cannot be right because "they sang" includes the four beasts. Since we don't have John's original, this verse is ambiguous.
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    When did (will) Jesus open the first seal in Rev. 6 and what does it represent?

    Did you research the other Greek Texts? They are different. Byzantine Majority kai adousin wdhn kainhn legonteV axioV ei labein to biblion kai anoixai taV sfragidaV autou oti esfaghV kai hgorasaV tw qew hmas en tw aimati sou ek pashV fulhV kai glwsshV kai laou kai eqnouV Alexandrian kai...
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    When did (will) Jesus open the first seal in Rev. 6 and what does it represent?

    Right: John "wept much" because "no man was found." That search ended in failure. WHY did it end in failure. Can you explain why? Next, "stuff" happened between John weeping and Christ suddenly appearing. You left that out. Not bad! But no, in the Old I think Jesus as the second person of...
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    When did (will) Jesus open the first seal in Rev. 6 and what does it represent?

    No one knows who the 24 elders are or were. People have been disagreeing on who they are for a long time. Look for a different translation. ASV And they sing a new song, saying, Worthy art thou to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and didst purchase unto God...
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    When did (will) Jesus open the first seal in Rev. 6 and what does it represent?

    About the Aorist tense as see at the 6th seal: the Day of His wrath is come..." Strongs tells us this is a second Aorist indicative About Aorist verbs in general: The aorist tense (and its grammatical variation, the second aorist tense) has no clear equivalent in English. It is characterized...
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    When did (will) Jesus open the first seal in Rev. 6 and what does it represent?

    The truth is, it was a guess for the first person that thought that Rev. 4:1 is the rapture. Any beginning reader would say it was John caught up, not in our future, but of course while John was still alive. The truth is, Jesus spent months teaching me HIS INTENT in chapters 4 & 5. Since you...
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    When did (will) Jesus open the first seal in Rev. 6 and what does it represent?

    A Greek Aorist tense verse really shows no timing at all. Here are all the uses of this same Greek word: ἦλθεν Strong's says "Verb - Second Aorist Active Indicative - 3rd Person Singular" MOST of the KJV uses are past tense, but not all. Jde 1:14 - And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam...
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    When did (will) Jesus open the first seal in Rev. 6 and what does it represent?

    Sorry, but I will not want to remember error. You are simply mistaken in your theory.