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  1. Ahwatukee

    The second coming of Jesus

    Well, you can always go to His word for the truth too, for that is what He gave it to us for. Jesus said that the Holy Spirit would bring to our remembrance all that He told us and that the Holy Spirit would reveal things to us that are yet to come. He does this through His word and this is how...
  2. Ahwatukee

    The Books of Enoch.

    Well, I personally don't believe that God flooded the earth for the basic sins of mankind. The information regarding the 'sons of God' taking human wives, they bearing children who became giants, makes a whole lot of sense, with Enoch giving a detailed account of all that the angels taught...
  3. Ahwatukee

    The Books of Enoch.

    Hello CS1, I see the 'sons of God' as a distinction from 'the daughters of men.' I also disagree in that, 'the sons of God' presenting themselves before the Lord in Job 1:6 & 2:1, demonstrates that this title is referring to angelic beings. And the fact that Satan presents himself with them...
  4. Ahwatukee

    The Books of Enoch.

    Actually, those angels are bound in Tartarus until the great white throne judgment, which doesn't take place until after the millennial kingdom. Also, much of the content of the book is given over to angelology and demonology. Enoch lends support to the Genesis account and more detail to what...
  5. Ahwatukee

    The second coming of Jesus

    Good day, soberxp! My was/is, that Jesus is warning the reader about those who would claim that the Messiah is out in the desert or in an inner room in a house, to not believe it. Then He tells them how they can know the true Messiah from the fakes and that because He will be arriving on the...
  6. Ahwatukee

    The Books of Enoch.

    Good one Dino! This is a good point, as it is demonstrating again that 'the sons of God' is referring to angelic hosts.
  7. Ahwatukee

    Jesus and Paul -two different gospels?

    Rev.10 and 18:4 have nothing to do with each other. Scriptures to back all that up, please. Otherwise it is just your word. The seven heads were a succession of seven kings. At the time that John was receiving that information, five of those seven had come and gone. King number six was...
  8. Ahwatukee

    Is the mark of the beast going to be about the papacy changing the day of the Sabbath?

    Because what the scripture states about the mark is literally taking place just as it is written. Why should I believe what you are saying when the literal is already happening? I've been studying this for over 45 years and have watched every phase of the mark technology. To answer your...
  9. Ahwatukee

    Jesus and Paul -two different gospels?

    The sounding of the 7th trumpet/third woe, is one of plagues of wrath within the trumpet judgments, with the results being Satan and his angels being cast out of heaven. When Adam and Eve were disobedient, the authority of the earth was given to Satan, as can be concluded from the following...
  10. Ahwatukee

    Is the mark of the beast going to be about the papacy changing the day of the Sabbath?

    Please provide the scriptures that would suggest that the mark is given to witches and wizards. I can tell you, that you will find no scripture that supports this. The mark of the beast will be a miniature device that will go either on the hand or forehead, just as scripture describes, and...
  11. Ahwatukee

    Jesus and Paul -two different gospels?

    Well, I have shown you the consequences of those who distorted Paul's writings and the they are the same today. So take heed. By believing and teaching that Paul's writings are false, you would be distorting the word of God. By your belief, you would be saying that all that Paul wrote is not...
  12. Ahwatukee

    Is the mark of the beast going to be about the papacy changing the day of the Sabbath?

    According to the Lord, the abomination will be an idolatrous image that will be set up in the holy place within the temple. The mark on the other hand, will go either on the hand or forehead of the individual and without it no one will be able to buy or sell. Cain never had the mark of the...
  13. Ahwatukee

    Jesus and Paul -two different gospels?

    This is not according to scripture. I would warn you, if you are entertaining the idea of discrediting the letters that Paul wrote, or believe or teach that he was a false apostle, then the same condemnation applies to those who would distort Paul's writings today. "Consider also that our...
  14. Ahwatukee

    Jesus and Paul -two different gospels?

    Greetings Yahcubs777, The two that you listed up above are in essence saying the same thing. To live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God, would be to have faith in the word of God. Paul is just being more direct saying that the just shall live by faith. Paul is not preaching...
  15. Ahwatukee

    Rev 1921

    It's always revealing to see those who 'red x' my posts, but they fail to mention what it is that they are rejecting. And they never provide any scripture to support the reason for their rejection.
  16. Ahwatukee

    Rev 1921

    IF the sun was sitting on the earth, could it give light to it? No, it couldn't. It would only give light to that side of the earth. The New Jerusalem may actually be in orbit around the earth. If you have the New Jerusalem stationary and sitting on the earth, then the light would be limited to...
  17. Ahwatukee

    Rev 1921

    Where did you read that the great tribulation must happen before the church can be gathered?
  18. Ahwatukee

    Rev 1921

    How would it be able to give light to the entire world, unless it was above the earth? Regarding your question, remember, everyone at that time will be in their immortal and glorified bodies. Therefore, we may be able to just think about going there and it will happen. We will not be as we are...
  19. Ahwatukee

    Rev 1921

    And I would add and I'm sure that you know, the New Jerusalem comes down after the millennial kingdom and great white throne judgment.
  20. Ahwatukee

    Rev 1921

    Why would you think that God would punish the righteous with the wicked? This is exactly what you are doing by your belief of the church being gathered after the great tribulation. To better understand this, you also need to do an in depth study of the severity of the seals, trumpets and bowl...