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  1. Ahwatukee

    Rev 1921

    JB, stop counting the Lord's appearing in the air as being a coming and you will not have a problem. When the Lord comes to gather the church, He only descends to the atmosphere, where He first calls up the dead and then the living and then returns to the Father's house. It isn't until the end...
  2. Ahwatukee

    Rev 1921

    Completely agree ! Well said!
  3. Ahwatukee

    Rev 1921

    Hello ewq1938! This scripture that you posted above, is one of the most misunderstood. And the reason for this, is because when people read it, they do not recognize the change that Paul makes. You bolden one, but not the other and that is why the confusion: * by the coming of our Lord Jesus...
  4. Ahwatukee

    Mormonism's Impossible gospel - Keith Walker

    Thank you! This is my policy now in dealing with Mormon's and JW's. To me, there is no point in debating other scriptural issues with them, when they don't have the right Jesus coming outta the gate. If Jesus is just a created being, then nothing else say matters. They have gone as far as to...
  5. Ahwatukee

    As in the days of Noah... ALL flesh had CORRUPTED itself

    Good post, PennEd! I know that this is a sore subject with many, but I believe that Enoch whom Jude quoted, give us much much insight to the corruption of the human race. Here is what Enoch states regarding this: =================================================================== Enoch 7:1- It...
  6. Ahwatukee

    Less well-known Rapture verses. The case for the Rapture is compelling.

    The entire seven years, which includes the great tribulation, is the wrath of God. It is the Lamb who will be unleashing all of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, not Satan. The seals, trumpets and bowl judgments will accomplish the following Day of the Lord prophecy...
  7. Ahwatukee

    Less well-known Rapture verses. The case for the Rapture is compelling.

    Scripture says that it is the seven bowl judgments that finish God's wrath. "Then I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvelous: seven angels having the seven last plagues, for in them (the seven bowls) the wrath of God is complete." Therefore, the wrath of God is completed after the 7th...
  8. Ahwatukee

    Less well-known Rapture verses. The case for the Rapture is compelling.

    The 6th seal and the event of Matt.24:29 though similar, are two different events. 6th Seal = A great earthquake that stir the mountains and islands, the sun darkened like goat hair, the moon turned blood red. Matt.24:29 = The sun and moon darkened and the stars falling from heaven to the...
  9. Ahwatukee

    Prayer request anxiety

    We'll do, Shannen! And here are a few words from the Lord regarding anxiety: "Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts...
  10. Ahwatukee

    Mormonism's Impossible gospel - Keith Walker

    No, but they do believe that they will become gods. For their motto goes like this: "As man is, God once was and as God is, man may become." They believe that they are going to have their own planets and rule as individual gods. This deception is very sad, with its beginnings based on one...
  11. Ahwatukee

    Less well-known Rapture verses. The case for the Rapture is compelling.

    No, they are not the same events. As I just posted, one is a blessed event and the other is plague of wrath. Just because the word 'trumpet' is used in both does not make them the same trumpet and this is the error that many make. "And the time of the dead, that they should be judged, And that...
  12. Ahwatukee

    Less well-known Rapture verses. The case for the Rapture is compelling.

    Hi Running man! The belief and teaching that the 'last trumpet' and the '7th trumpet' are the same trumpet, is false. What they are doing is pigeonholing the word 'trumpet.' As an example, the 'loud trumpet' of Matt.24:31 that sounds for the angels to gather the righteous at the end the age, is...
  13. Ahwatukee

    Less well-known Rapture verses. The case for the Rapture is compelling.

    And, as I'm sure you already know, Rev.19:6-8 demonstrates that the bride/church is in heaven during the tribulation attending the wedding of the Lamb. Then in verse 14, the armies of heaven are wearing the same fine linen, bright and clean that the bride will have just received as they follow...
  14. Ahwatukee

    The Books of Enoch.

    Yeah, that's just a matter of not hitting the space bar. I think that they Got my meaning by the rest of the context.
  15. Ahwatukee

    The Books of Enoch.

    Because the quote is right in scripture and Jude called it prophecy from Enoch. "Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all...
  16. Ahwatukee

    Mormonism's Impossible gospel - Keith Walker

    "Whatever you do, work at it with your whole being, for the Lord and not for men, because you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as your reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. Whoever does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there is no favoritism. The above is...
  17. Ahwatukee

    The Books of Enoch.

    Fact: Enoch was apart of the scriptures up to the 4th century, when there was a stigma between whether to keep the books of Enoch or Revelation. Revelation won out and Enoch fell out of circulation. They should have kept both Fact: Jude quoted from Enoch calling it a prophecy. - Jude 1:14. That...
  18. Ahwatukee

    Mormonism's Impossible gospel - Keith Walker

    Hello chosenbyhim! When it comes to dealing with Mormon's, it is not needful to get caught up in debating scripture with them, but to go straight to the heart of the matter, which is that they believe that Jesus was a spirit-brother of Lucifer and therefore to them He is only a created being...
  19. Ahwatukee

    Less well-known Rapture verses. The case for the Rapture is compelling.

    He is simply attempting to use that scripture to restrict the Lord so that He is unable to leave heaven in order to gather His church, which is just ridiculous! It's the equivalent of those who attempt to use Eccl.9:5 to prove soul-sleep, while ignoring all the rest of the scriptures that prove...
  20. Ahwatukee

    Less well-known Rapture verses. The case for the Rapture is compelling.

    Good day, Blackpowerduelist! Below is a chronological summary of end-time events: * We are here * The Lord appears in the air and gathers the church, taking them back to the Father's house * The wrath of God (seals, trumpets, bowls, witnesses plagues, beasts reign, etc.) * After the 7th...