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Your missing the point by a mile, "not by works" it is talking about "Salvation", you are speaking about what we do after we are saved, which is our Practice or Sanctification and our daily walk in the Spirit. We are Saved by Grace alone through faith in the blood sacrifice of our Savior Jesus...

The self-righteous, saved by grace plus my wonderful works bunch, should do everybody a favor and put on a little humility, The bible teaches "we are saved by grace "through faith" "not by works", so that no one can boast" Just like our Father Abraham Epheasians2:8,9 For it is by grace you...

I understand it is a long held tradition. Since today we live under a "new and better covenant" and we no longer live under the law but under grace; should not Jesus and the Holy Spirit be honored by this tradition as well. Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God so why not give them the same...

Excuse me but why do you spell God with a hyphen as such, "G-d."

Agreed mailmandan. Proper Hermeneutics will keep you on solid ground and provide you with a proper interpretation. Anything less will guarantee a misinterpretation. Let the bible "speak to you" and God will reveal His Truth to you. If you go searching for a verse to support your bias with an...

The focal point of this debate is, "Not By Works", Christians will have an abundance of good works but they cannot save you or keep you saved; our works are evidence that we are saved. This debate has been going on for 2000 + years, no one could stop it back then and it won't be stopped today...

One billion Christians in the world and you seen to have the insider story on each and every Church. Document your sources please.

I did my research its called the bible. And the rest of what you say about the wickedness in the Church and Pastors starting to stop preaching "the security of the believer", (osas), is pure speculation, there s no proof and this is just unverifiable nonsense, document you sources or keep quiet...

No I would not doubt your salvation, we grow and mature at our own speed, God knows how much is too much and He loves us just the same as He loves His son with agape love , not based on our performance.

Hi benhur, stop a moment and think about what you are saying, Jesus told peter that "I will build my Church and the gates of hell will not prevail." Matthew16:18. Church attendance will wax and wane, but God will always have a true and strong remnant who will not bow the knee to false gods...

Really judging people again, so whats new.

Yes I was quoting from the website, thank you.

I did and I was quoting the author from the article you provided presupposing that you had already read the article and that you would recognize who the quote was from; "these words were not mine."

Thank you BillG, and God's grace to you as well, :)

No I did not say any of these things, the author of the article you sent me did, not me Quote from post #67205 Quote#1, "I'm a former Catholic (this was a quote from the link and article "you" provided, not from me. Quote#2, but I am not an anti-Catholic, again this was a quote from the link...

Show me the quote, where I said I was a former Catholic. You won't find it because I never said those words. I never said I was a former Catholic just that half of my family was Catholic.

First tell us your Church denomination, is it Catholic? This quote above looks like you are familiar with Catholic doctrines and you have mentioned the Catholic Church in your posts supporting their doctrines. Quote: "You know that you do not have to be Catholic, 'to believe some of their...

Stop hiding benhur and first of all tell us, "What denomination are you affiliated with." Is it the Catholic Church? Stand up for Jesus!

Quote: "You know that you do not have to be Catholic, 'to believe some of their doctrines" The Catholic Church s full of non-biblical doctrine's of men. If you want to promote the teachings of the Catholic Church please go to a "Catholic Website" benhur your Christian beliefs must be...

Deceptive Poster Metternich. Metternich sent me this post above and gave me a link to a Catholic website supporting OSAS. Link: "Could I trouble you to read a tract defending OSAS." http://www.justforcatholics.org/a72.htm He politely asked me for my testimony which I joyfully complied with...