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Wrong again, Judas Iscariot grafted himself into Jesus vineyard and was, "non-born again" Our Savior had many followers who were hangers on for the benefit of being near the Christ. But I understand that this interpretation does not fit your view that A "True Christian" can lose their eternal...

I hope you believe that the ones who have done evil are unsaved sinners. Christians will have plenty of "good works", we are save to do good works; we are not saved by our good works. Works that follow a saved Christian will be tested, the wood hay and stubble will be burnt up but they will be...

Hi Mcgee, I've been offline due to packing and moving for a week. If I may add something that I was taught in Adult Sunday School Class. When you come across two passages of scripture that "seem" to contradict each other; where one proof text is clear and the other is unclear you should use...

This thread is not talking about what you do after you are saved, baptism, bible study, ministry, etc. So what on earth does, "Not By Works", mean to you? You do not seem to be able to separate being born again from your practice, our daily walk. These are two separate events that happen to...

Judas is the perfect example of an apostate he worked along side of Jesus and the eleven disciples for three years and yet was only pretending to be a follower of Jesus. The eleven disciples never new Judas was a pretend disciple until Jesus reveal it to His chosen disciples. John6:70 Then...

Apostates were never true believers, that is why they left the faith. And Christians will all endure to the end, its called the perseverance of the saints or the "eternal security of the believer." One thing I am sure of and you are not is that your grace plus works counterfeit gospel will not...

"Eternal Security of the Believer", is supported by scripture, like it or not. You may choose to not believe in the "eternal security of the believer", but I choose to believe that, "He who has begun a good work in me will carry it on to completion." Phil1:6 To say that a true believers...

Okay so document your proof and just who are these fictitious people you know so intimately, did you have and interview with them, and how is it you are so privileged to know all of their personal history. Your stories sound made up just like the notion that a "born again believer" can, "lose...

Amen! Preach it theanointedsinner, again and again.

Hi OstrichSmiling, I whole heartedly agree with you, our salvation is "eternal." and at the "bema seat" of Christ we will be judged for rewards not punishment, there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, Rom8:1. I am so tired of hearing benhur's fictitious story about a...

Document your "too many scriptures", why should we just take your word as being true. Please list all of your verses that support your view that a born again believer can lose their "eternal salvation." The bible say's you are wrong. OSAS is a strawman argument that cannot be supported by...

No reprobates, unbelievers disbelievers, atheist, apostates, heretics, or heathens, including goats, are allowed in God's Kingdom. God's kingdom is reserved for those who "love", the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Over and over you search God's word so that you can prove your false...

oops, I meant to say, truly born "again" believer

Fully functional? A truly born believer will not hate Jesus we love our Savior. A non believer will not be in Jesus Kingdom and he can hate Jesus all he wants. Your argument makes no sense, it is a fictional made up story just like always, boring.

Hi Mailmandan, Amen! Quote: "When Jesus speaks we listen" Matthew28:18 18 "And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me."

Amen dan, if you can show them that their grace plus works gospel if false from the very beginning such as God providing a sacrifice and clothing to Adam and Eve, then their attempt at creating a counterfeit gospel will fall apart like a house of cards. These people who promote a grace plus...

Appreciate your words, Jesus put believers back in a relationship with our heavenly Father as it was in the garden. Relationship restored; not fully yet. And the Holy Spirit is our guarantee that what God has promised is true. Just like a letter that you would send to your loved one, we are...

Adam and Eve were saved by grace through faith as were everyone from the beginning of time, nothing has changed. It is God who provides the sacrifice and who brought them their clothing as He does for you and I. It is God who provides our sacrifice for sin, and who redeems us from the fall...

For those who believe in salvation by grace through faith alone, here is and example of how God's grace works to regenerate a person who is spiritually dead but made alive in Christ by God's grace through faith alone. "sola gratia" (grace alone)., through "sola fide" (faith alone). Monergism...

This is a beautiful picture of Jesus Christ interceding for us at the right hand of God. This is just but one example of God's love for all true believers, the "eternal security of the believer." More than conquerors: Our Savior will not lose one of His dear sheep, not one. 34) Who then is...