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No one really knows WHO the elders are: just another perpetual argument that has gone on for centuries. The point is, by this time Jesus had risen from the dead and had redeemed ALL MEN back to God. If we go backwards, what Happened just before Jesus told Mary not to touch Him for He had not...

Sigh! Another non sequitur. Why not just believe what is written instead of searching the bible for some kind of argument? John GIVES why Jesus was found worthy: "Because thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood..."

And still, the truth is, Jesus was not found at that time. Why? No, it was 95 AD as John was watching this vision so it was 95 AD when He wept. But this does not answer to the time or timing John was seeing in the vision. We determine that by what John was seeing. Don't make this more...

Sorry, but you cannot mix the Holy Spirit within (born again) with the Holy Spirit upon (baptism in the Holy Spirit). These are two separate moves of the Holy Spirit for two distinct purposes. The "power" in Acts 1 is power to witness. Granted, we get the power of the Holy Spirit INSIDE when we...

We had a nature of sin and death when we were born, because we were born with an "Adam" spirit separated from God. But when we were born again, we got a NEW spirit which is a NEW nature! Now our nature is to love and serve God. Sadly, we still live in a flesh and blood body that remembers sin...

Why don't you tell us how much time elapsed while John was weeping? Tell us why John would have written "no man was found" if the search was ongoing? It just does not fit. This actually tells us what changed between when John wept and Jesus was found. It says "he prevailed." You imagine He...

Ah! So you are a prewrather! Yes, we most certainly disagree. Prewrath theory causes a complete rearranging of Revelation to fit, so is automatically proven wrong. ANY theory that must rearrange Revelation to fit will be proven wrong. Where you have missed it: you don't know where "great...

You keep saying this: please, tell us the difference in your mind: define each and what it will cause.

You still don't have it according to the written text. The Day of His wrath starts first, then the 70th week, causing the ENTIRE WEEK to be the wrath of God. That means every trumpet judgment and every bowl judgment will come with the wrath of God. During the last half of the week, Satan's...

Right! It is not the church that is sealed in Revelation! Everyone should know that. There is the everyday "tribulation" of the church age, and since the church age has been ongoing for 2000 years, God called it "mega" (GR) or great tribulation that the great crowd came out of before any part...

I wondered about the 116 days of leap years Sir Robert Anderson added. I was at the U of I at the time as a student, so I wrote a program to calculate leap years with a beginning and ending date - just to check and see if the 116 days was correct. It was.

I will stick with much. But how long can it be before someone raises from the dead to the time He raises from the dead? It could be seconds or it could be days. How long would it take this angel to search all over heaven? Does he just make an announcement and wait to see if anyone answers? We...

Pretribbers agree: it is written in Daniel 9.

As if you do? NOT!

Your fantasy is John and Jesus' truth. Most or Revelation is future. You will have to see it to believe it. The truth is, Daniel PENNED IN a gap and put the 70 AD events in the gap.

69 times 360 times 7 = 173,880 days.

That theory would make most of Revelation a history book. Funny thing, no one has ever been able to find the events in Revelation in history. DUh! It's FUTURE. (It is not a bad word!)

I live in peace. On the other hand, when you hear truth, you seem to come unglued and get angry. WRONG AGAIN! We are not in the millennium. It would be great if you were right occasionally.

"invisible" indeed - as if an angel could not see in the spirit realm. Why not read the text?

Sorry, but your post is another very disappointing one. His post was just human reasoning, and pulling verses out of context; "There was a large and immense crowd in the heavenly environment The question was yet sounding to the crowd verses 11 to 14" He is rearranging the text to fit a...