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Agreed. So if we follow John: 5:6 Jesus ascends, (circa 32 AD) gets the book, and begins right then (32 AD) opening the first seal. Is this what you are agreeing with?

The pretrib had had some very poor exegesis for centuries. But God is revealing truth. For example, when was John called up? (Approximately)

Unless you can show us this "dropping off" in scripture it is only a MYTH. (you can't so it is myth!) Question: When Jesus shed His blood, did that blood go all the way back and remove ADAM's sin? You know it did. Since it SAYS 24 elders (and then later "us" referring back to them) and...

I must declare this as myth, for there is NOT ONE HINT in scripture of what you say. And John has covered NO TIME in this intermission. It is still only between two seals. It will last for the time it will take angels to seal 144,000. I know, born again Jews like to propagate this myth. The...

Neither can I find it between 5 & 6. It is not the intent of the Author so there is no hint of in in scripture here. (The first hint of a long period of time to wait is at the 5th seal martyrs of the church age. They are told that judgment will not start until the very last martyr to be killed...

Yes, they are mentioned. But what does that prove? They (the elders) were seen in the throne room before Christ ascended and sent the Holy Spirit down - and here - still in our future - they are seen again. I suggest they are the very same elders. Here we also see this large group. They are...

Not a chance! You are rearranging Revelation and your theory will be proven wrong. (Sorry to be so blunt.) The truth is, John has not yet started the 70th week, MUST LESS arrived at the second half of the week. The beheaded of the days of GT Jesus spoke of only begin showing up in chapter 15. NO...

You are building a tall building (your theory) on a faulty foundation! John used "after this" or a similar phrase 6 times in Revelation, all when the vision he was watching changed subjects. Therefore this phrase "meta tauta" "after this" is only a transitional phrase with the meaning...

Please, my friend, pay attention to the context: Chapter 4, the Holy Spirit still in throne room, but sent down in 5:6. You are 2000 years off here. IN CONTEXT, just before Jesus ascended (after sending Mary away) WHAT did Jesus prevail over? (Hint: 3 days and 3 nights before He had died on...

NOT the raptured church, still in our future. Determine the TIMING: The Holy Spirit is still there (4:5) showing us Jesus has not yet ascended to send Him down. (He is sent down in 5:6) How possibly can the elders be the raptured church before Jesus ascended? Impossible! Without a doubt these...

cv5, there is nothing in chapter 7 about the 24 elders. A better answer is to study chapters 4 and 5 and determine the real timing there. Hint is found in 5:6. It is Jesus' first ascension after sending Mary away.

Yes, John was seeing a VISION. A vision can be about the past, present or future, or all mixed together. We determine the timing inside the vision by the context of the vision. I think we all agree in this.

NOT "right on!" cv5 said Revelation 4 & 5 are NOT "after the church age." That theory is MYTH. Just one verse proves that; Rev. 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns...

Along with the Church itself of course, who are represented by the 24 elders. Who would be the eldest of all elders? Adam Seth Enos Cainan Mahalaleel Jared Enoch Methuselah Lamech Noah Does this give you some ideas or the rest of the 24 Before any of the NT saints will show up? The 24 elders...

That was a nice sidestep but not a direct answer to the question. I will ask again: If Jesus came tonight for His bride (your theories will not change HIM) WILL YOU BE EXPECTING HIM? Will you be looking for Him?

Hebrews 9: Jesus said He will appear to those who are LOOKING for Him! (It leaves unsaid about those NOT looking for Him.)

YOu can say that but you cannot back it up with scripture. It is therefore only myth. Oh, it is myth believed by many! For example: show us even one word at the first seal that would even hint that he is evil. Show us any verse that would even hint it is future to us today. Let's look at...

If you are thinking of those who Christ raised up when He rose (Mat. 27), it said "many." It did not say "all." Jesus said He would raise them up on the last day. I think those were "elders" raised.

This is truth and a fact: UNTIL Jesus died on the cross and rose from the dead, NO ONE could become born again. It would have been impossible. OT saints sins were COVERED, not removed. The prophet, priest and king had the Holy Spirit UPON them by it was impossible for them to be born again. NO...

Actually, I go by what is written. I find position in Revelation very relevant. Events written in one chapter will certainly have after events in previous chapters and before events in future chapters - except for what is inside parentheses. In other words, things in chapter 6 are before the...