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OK I have another one. 2 Kings 19v35 One Angel wipes out an entire army laying siege to Jerusalem in one night. One Angel. The looks on the faces of those in Israel must have been priceless. From certain death to victory. God hardly moves His little finger.

OK Grandpa. Use this forum, with step by step scriptures to show how you come to that conclusion for Hebrews 10 (don't insert supposition). Just use the scriptures as they are. Go as far back in Hebrews as you wish. Looking for the conclusive link.

Hebrews 10 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [c]if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since...

Maybe. I am open to modifying my opinion. ^^^Why do you say so?

Lol. Oyster you are on form sir!

uh uh....you forgot angle of the sun and Pi(3.14.159) Madam, if you cannot understand the basic English, you are not going to understand any of these other things you just listed.

Really, this is your best shot? This is the result of you going away for 3-4 hours to study up a rebuttal to my interpretation of Romans 6 in favour of your interpretation? ^^^^^THIS !!!!!

Basically fancy words when they can no longer argue with the scriptures. Like a tortoise popping its head back into the shell. They pull out a "well the scriptures can be interpreted THAT way because of context, hermeneutics, angle of the sun, and Pi (3.14159))"

The god of this world blinds them. They don't see it. Its so obvious (the meaning) that its so supernatural to see how they are blinded. The Word proves true every time. 2 Corinthians 4 3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 whose minds the god of this...

You are accusing the translators of the bible of not using proper grammar? Are you for real?

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Its all here: Its a Gift. Its lost in this scenario 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 [c]if they fall away...

Salvation cannot be earned. Salvation can be lost.

The Holy Spirit continues to teach.

The IF in this context means exactly what is does in any computer program. A computer program works as follows (even Excel has this command): IF........THEN........ IF <condition is present> THEN <Consequence> If the computer program runs and it analyses the behaviour of a Christian and comes...

These things should be on your fingertips. You should be fully ready to give your account. Maybe there is a friendly commentary you can get some inspiration from.

OK since you raised Romans 6. Use your systematic theology to explain to us verses 1 and 2. Feel free to use the whole bible to explain those two verses. You can use Romans 1if you wish, deuteronomy, anything you feel is worthwhile in explaining this. I will review shortly when back online.

That's a bit dodgy of you.

Opening up all these threads makes for a more interesting CC forum than the endless whining carrying on in your Not by Works thread, which has 3 years of works and no resolution or edification.