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Phillipians 2:5-8 IN GOD THE SON, bluto

Ok, regarding what DesertWangere said, (and I am not speaking for him) I know Jesus said at John 20:17, "Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethern, and say to them, I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God." Obviously, to me Jesus...

Ok Mr. Jewish monotheist! If the Jews understood scripture, why did Jesus "dress them down" at John 8:42-47? Specifically vs42, "Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you cannot hear My word." How is it the "Jewish monotheist" in the NT all understood what Jewish said about...

Come on Mattathias, it's obvious you and your theology are falling apart. How you say? Because your being "disingenuous" when you say things like this: "This is a chat forum. If it is a requirement of this site to post the book, chapter and verse then it should be stated somewhere." Or here...

Your "rang?" The JW's do indeed believe that Jesus, who is also Michael the arc angel is the angel of the Lord. The Jw's sayh so in the following article. Just read the second to last paragraph here. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200004625#h=31 And for you Mattathias, the preincarnate...

What does that mean when you say, "Jesus Christ is functionally God? Is He or is He not God in a human body? Why do you think Hebrews 10: 4 say, "But a body Thou hast prepared for Me." Or at Hebrews 5:7, "In the days of His flesh," Who talks like that if Jesus is not God in flesh? And btw, are...

Oh please Mattathias, now I know your completely off the rails. What do you think is going to happen when I appear before Jesus Christ (or even you for that matter), is He going to ask me why my so-called ancestors slaughtered others? And if I say, "It's not my fault" what do you think He is...

Hold on there Nehemiah, read "ALL" that I said. Don't just pick and choose one comment and run with it without taking your time and reading everything first. IN GOD THE SON, bluto

That's right? Not understanding the identity of the angel of the Lord is not a salvational issue because I know many who don't believe the angel of the Lord is the preincarnate Jesus Christ yet they are saved. But, when you deny the deity of Jesus Christ and say, "He's a unique human person that...

Wow, your more far gone that I first thought. Especially when you say, Jesus is a "unique" human person. If Jesus Christ is simply a "unique" human person who is not God how come He is clearly identified or presented as the Agent of creation here at John 1:1-3, Colossians 1:16-17, Hebrews 1:10...

Listen, anybody can state or claim a position, the point is that you have to "prove" your position. Now the best you have is to "lump" me in with the translators of the NASB. I'm not committed to them, I'm committed to Jesus Christ and His word. You have yet to address any of my "scriptual"...

You just "shot" yourself in the foot and you don't even know it for two reasons. You said directly above, "If Gideon had believed he was addressing God himself rather than the representative of God, then the Hebrew word Gideon would have used is adonai, the deity title, not adoni, the non-deity...

Come on Mattathias, your argument defies simple common sense and not to mention basic "logic." You said this: "2) The angel whom Zechariah is speaking with (who is not the angel of the Lord) is addressed in 1:9 with the non-deity Hebrew title, adoni. The title occurs 195 times in scripture, and...

Yes, the Son is speaking as the angel of the Lord. Since you said, "No" then please Biblically refute what I stated? Listen, your doing me a favor by poking holes in this and that is one way of how I learn. But I assure you, there's not a question you can ask me on this subject that I won't know...

At Zechariah 1 you have "an" angel as the rider on the red horse with other angels behind him, (vs8). You also have "the" angel of the Lord as the one speaking to the Lord. That's how I understand it. Can you please identify the actors at Malachi 3:1? Who's who? And don't ask me these "why"...

Remember Mattathias I ask you the following question? Is the angel of the Lord as Genesis 16 who multiplied Hagars descendants the same being who multiplied Abrham's descendants at Genesis 17:1-2? You said, "Maybe" which to me shows your honest enough to admit your not sure. Maybe I can change...

I'm not talking about "crusades" against trinitarianism on this board. I meant it for you personally. You also stated you use to be a Trinitarian, aren't "Anabaptis" Trinitarians? I can also sense there is "tension" in your heart. Especially when you mentioned you were a "pacifist" and you...

No you didn't garee. The question is simple. Why cannot God become a man? In other words, angels are spiritual beings who cannot be seen. However, God uses them in Scripture to be seen by the angels taking the form of a man. That's what happened at Genesis 18 regarding two of the angels/men...

I'm home, finally. You know Mattathias why is it that you have this "crusade" against trinitarianism? You have mentione the word in just about every post even when it's not the subject. Even on this subject you made a point of quoting a source like the NET Bible/Daniel Wallace and have to...

Hi Mattiathias. Let me say it's impossible that the angel of the Lord is just an angel like Michael or Gabriel. I will expand or prove what I say later today. I am out of town and will be home 5 hours. I will also gladly address the question you ask me. In the meantime please read Genesis 18 and...