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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Not a single verse that says "pre-trib rapture before the Resurrection" Not a single verse that says "the Lord's Coming will be before the Antichrist" Not a single verse that says "He will rapture you before Tribulation" I an add to that: Not a single verse that says "post-trib rapture after...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    It seems you think God is losing! Think again! From A Christian encyclopedia: "Africa became the continent with the most Christians in 2018, surpassing Latin America (which surpassed Europe in 2014). " I will agree that church attendance in the US is shrinking. But in Africa I think it is...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Here is where you veered off from the truth: The Timing of Paul's rapture is in accordance with the Prophets and the word's of Christ. You see, the rapture was a SECRET up until Paul told it. For rapture information you can only go to Paul who received the revelation of the rapture. No prophet...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    You are thinking whatever town you live in. God sees the entire world and knows that worldwide the church is GROWING. Sure, some fall away, but for every one that falls away, two come in. Sorry to inform you, but the error is on your part. God has planned and escape from "all these things"...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    I emphasize THE...it is not just any (some) apostasia, it is a SERIOUS apostasia (whatever Paul meant by that word). It was a very significant apostasia - one that Paul expected people to instantly recognize as what he was talking about. In my mind some falling away does not meet a significant...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    I have studied those scriptures for many years, and I disagree with how you read them. When I was reading Daniel 9:27, when my eyes and my mind got to the word "midst" God spoke to me. I heard His voice and His words. He said I could find that exact midpoint "clearly marked" in the book of...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Daniel himself WROTE IN the gap we are living in. John confirmed it by showing us the entire 70th week as a future event.
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    You are free to say that. ;-)
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Yes, I know. But the last verse in Hebrews 9 hints strongly that believers NOT LOOKING will be left behind. It does not come right out and say it, but hints of it. I think I understand why. Everything we get from God we get by faith. There are many believers that have STRONG FAITH they will...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Then you are mistaken. Why not just follow John? John starts the DAY of His wrath (another title for the Day of the Lord) at the 6th seal, so God certainly still has wrath at the 7th seal and certainly still has wrath at the first trumpet and second trumpet etc. Please explain why you don't...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    How do you define "trib?" I define it as a poor title for the 70th week of Daniel. The 70th week BEGINS with the 7th seal and ends with the 7th vial. God made it plain and simple.
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    I know it was not a direct quote. Good point. Yes, of course Antiochus was real. Chapter 8 tells much about him. Many people try to find the end times in chapter 8, but in context that chapter is not about our future, but about ancient history now. I believe Luk 21:20 - although it happened in...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    No, not true. God has to finish the promises he has made to the Jews, and the 70th week will be a part of those promises. Next, His plan, without much doubt, is that man will rule the world for the first 6000 years, they God HImself will rule the world for the 7th thousand years. We are very...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    I take it you don't believe Paul's rapture will end the church age. If not, can you explain why not? By the way, it would be much easier to just search each term in Biblegateway.
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    That depends on an ambiguous text: some Greek Texts have Day of the Lord, while other Greek text have the Day of Christ. Which term did Paul use in his first letter on the same subject? He used the Day of the Lord. In my opinion, there are not enough scriptures about the Day of Christ to know...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    The order makes no difference: my point was, God did not put a title on those days of GT. There will be days, probably not years. I doubt if the days will add up to 3 years. John does not tell us.
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    No, sorry, but you have missed a parenthesis that goes from 11:4 through 11:13. John takes the readers on a side journey down the last half of the week OUTSIDE of His chronology with the Two Witnesses only, with a parenthesis. John did not use any marks, but he certainly used parenthesis. The...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Sorry, disagree: the first 6 trumpets are already sounded when the Two Witnesses show up. But they WILL testify for their 1260 days - but most of that time will be in the second half of the week. Rev. 11:4-13 is written as a parenthesis outside of John's chronology. He takes the readers on a...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    Gary, I have never heard it put that way before on the greak tribulation (GT). I agree with you because I think that is exactly the GT John told us the great crowd came out of - the trials and tribulation people live through on earth. However, this is not the same GT Jesus spoke about that would...
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    How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

    I agree, SOME will depart from the faith. This means SOME. Can you equate SOME with THE APOSTASIA, meaning a very significant one - one that all would recognize as what Paul was meaning? The truth is, when one falls away from the faith, TWO or more come into the faith. The church is growing and...