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I am quite sure that Paul knew Koine Greek better than anyone today.

Please explain where you find the gathering in this passage, other than in the theme of the passage.

It was given to you numerous times why are you rejecting it??? Matthew ch24 As we have pointed out again and again, just pointing to a coming and a gathering is NO PROOF it is Paul's coming and gathering. To be proof, you must show scripture that clearly shows us they are the same. Here are...

Yet, several of the earlier translators, before the KJV, translated apostasia as "departing." They were not influenced by the KJV.

Hmmm. Do you know what he imagined for the BOW in the hand of the rider at the first seal? The Greek word is TOXON from which we get our English word toxic, meaning deadly. Toxon all through the Greek Septuagint was used for the Bow that shoots arrows. But STrong imagined it was a bow as is...

Why then, in light of these scriptures, do frequently accuse us of lying?

That is the very point we are disagreeing on! Where you miss it: Paul declared that it was a mystery: before God revealed to Paul that those who were alive and in Christ would be caught up and changed. That means NO ONE ELSE KNEW that. Most of them knew that at some time the dead would be...

Good point. A good question to be answered: Was the Luke version spoken at the same place and time as the Matthew version, or was it spoken at a different time and place? I think it was the same time and place and God caused Luke to remember and write something the others left out.

Gary, there is no doubt at Paul's time this word was used as apostasy. All I am saying is, Paul used it as an original compound word. I think the context proves that. You don't think so. We disagree. As you already know, many Greek words have different meanings, as demonstrated by the...

Paul received the revelation and Paul wrote it. Therefore it is legitimate to call it Paul's rapture. Matthew certainly did not write of it.

You still have not figured it out! It is astounding! By its very definition a "second" coming can only be once and there must have been a first. But saying "second coming" in NO WAY makes a third coming impossible. The truth is, your "second" coming will really be His THIRD coming, because He...

I agree: Paul was expecting Christ's return in his day.

Since you say my post is nonsense, why have you not explained: Why Paul wrote, "and now you know...? How the man of sin is revealed in 3b in light of 6-8? Why the people were so upset? Why the parallels?

It could be, except God is pretrib.

I am still waiting for a solid verse that truly proves a posttrib rapture. It seems you have given it your best shot.

No, Paul's sin was washed away. Did you forget the power of Christ's blood? NONE Of us would make it without His shed blood. Yes, I will freely admit that Jesus will come from heaven TO THE AIR, NOT on a white horse, and NOT touching down. He will be coming FOR HIS BRIDE, not for Armageddon...

I think one thing is certain: you and will probably never agree on this passage. A compound word should always maintain the meaning of each word such as mailbox. It is a box meant for mail. Such as bedroom. It is a room with a bed. You want to remove the separate meaning and make this word mean...

Here I was HOPING you would find a scripture from prophecy OF words of Jesus showing the timing of Paul's rapture as you stated. The truth is, there is no such verses so you couldn't show even one. Did you say, "sorry, I missed it?" No.

I have the Holy Spirit inside as the seal and guarantee of an eternity with God in heaven, and the Holy Spirit upon me as the anointing. That means I received the mighty baptism in the Holy Spirit with the evidence of praying in tongues. I suspect you disobeyed God and chose to skip the...

How many times must you be told something before you actually GET IT? A hundred? A thousand? Let's try one more time. EVERYONE KNOWS Christ is coming AFTER the trib. EVERYONE KNOWS Christ is coming AFTER the trib. EVERYONE KNOWS Christ is coming AFTER the trib. EVERYONE KNOWS Christ is coming...