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    Why do so many Churches teach a salvation doctrine opposed the the one Jesus taught?

    I can quote any random bible verse but that does not answer the question. Ate you a young child?
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    Why do so many Churches teach a salvation doctrine opposed the the one Jesus taught?

    Both of you have no idea what you are talking about.
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    Reconciling Matthew 24 and Revelation 6

    Jeff In the bible....Sun moon and stars used together usually mean a change of rule or adminstation. Gen 37, they bow to Joseph Isa13:6-13. Fall of babylon Isa34:fall of idumea vs2-6 Joel:2 mt 24,acts2 rev6 Fall of ot.Jerusalem apostate whore...replaced by the bride. More later! Same language...
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    Reconciling Matthew 24 and Revelation 6

    Yes...I will respond after work today.
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    Why do so many Churches teach a salvation doctrine opposed the the one Jesus taught?

    But you avoid answering the questions? Support your view with scripture.
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    Why do so many Churches teach a salvation doctrine opposed the the one Jesus taught?

    All men from all time are under Gods law. Sin is the transgression of the law of God. We all sin against God. At the judgment only those rightly related to the law will enter heaven and New Heaven New Earth. Jesus was the only perfect law keeper. We must be found In Saving Union with Him, by new...
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    Reconciling Matthew 24 and Revelation 6

    These events have taken place already. Both Mt.24, and rev.6 speak of the fulfillment of the Covenant curses upon Israel and apostate Jerusalem, Deut.28-33 and the bringing in of the N.C .administration
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    Why do so many Churches teach a salvation doctrine opposed the the one Jesus taught?

    Are you suggesting we can murder, or steal, or worship, Baal?
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    Why do so many Churches teach a salvation doctrine opposed the the one Jesus taught?

    We are not lawless. Can you break the 10 commandments as a Christian? 8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. 9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness...
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    Why do so many Churches teach a salvation doctrine opposed the the one Jesus taught?

    No....we are not under the law of Moses. Jesus gave the law to Moses. Moses was faithful in his house. Jesus over the whole house. 3 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus; 2 Who was faithful to him...
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    Why do so many Churches teach a salvation doctrine opposed the the one Jesus taught?

    Thanks for your response. Christians are not lawless, but we obey Gods commands
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    Why do so many Churches teach a salvation doctrine opposed the the one Jesus taught?

    I have fat fingers,, the r and the t are next to each other, right? Are under law to Christ.
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    Why do so many Churches teach a salvation doctrine opposed the the one Jesus taught?

    I believe you are mistaken. Which of the 10 commandments can we disobey?
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    Why do so many Churches teach a salvation doctrine opposed the the one Jesus taught?

    The law is holy,just, and good. Christians ate under law to Christ.
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    Why do so many Churches teach a salvation doctrine opposed the the one Jesus taught?

    There is law and grace in all 66 books of the bible
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    http://vor.org/truth/1689/1689bc00.html Chapter 10: Of Effectual Calling 1._____ Those whom God hath predestinated unto life, he is pleased in his appointed, and accepted time, effectually to call, by his Word and Spirit, out of that state of sin and death in which they are by nature, to grace...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    "FreeGrace2, [Once again a calvinist quotes 1 verse but leaves out the very next verse, which EXPLAINS who will come to Jesus. And it isn't about unconditional election.] No...Verse 37 explains why they come, unconditional election. All the Father gives me shall come. verse 45 shows the end...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    Do you mean like this? 10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    Hello My Friend, Christians are called to be saints. Of course we are called to service. That is part of the good works that are ordained for us. Eph2:10 To deny election unto salvation is aunbiblical resistence to truth.