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And my response to Dave on the gifts is the very thing Dave is preaching. Dave posits that the Gifts are no longer in operation. So then if Dave believes the Gifts are no longer in operation then FOR DAVE the gifts are NO longer in operation. They can only operate by faith and since Dave has no...

You falsely slander me. Nearly everything I post is scripture, which offends you @preacher4truth . You need to ask why this offends you?

The question is phrased wrongly. Do I believe God can raise the dead? Absolutely. He has done it before. Has He used me as a vessel through which the dead are raised? No. Not Yet. Maybe never. Make sense?

Interesting questions. My opinion is that for sure many will come though but we must also understand the Great tribulation in terms of scripture. It is a time when God primarily focuses on Israel because it says that the time of the fullness of the Gentiles has come in and also that he sends...

Absolutely.

I will be on the lookout for your line by line. Until then, I am off. Till later.

You have made some big statements earlier in the thread, but now you can't back these up because of copyright? You should then be able to articulate your belief from your heart (It's what YOU believe that I am seeking answers about). Yet you are avoiding the line by line discussion. And I know...

Lol, which you don't believe in (smiles at the irony). Faith is what a believer exercises. Jesus says when He returns, will He even find faith on the earth. Jesus says to his disciples, Oh ye of little faith!!

Sorry but that just DOESN'T cut the grade. Not on a Bible Discussion Forum.

No. If you have faith the size of a mustard seed you can move mountains. But people don't know how to exercise their faith. That is the limiting factor. Not God.

You need to deliver the line by line that you promised.......that was our deal. Show me how you think through these verses. Then I will maybe understand where you are coming from.

It is proportion to our faith. I have certain gifts. You are unlikely to have any. See - its in proportion to our faith.

Still no line by line??? That was our deal. Still waiting.....

John 12 49 For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. 50 And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak.” John 5 19 Then Jesus...

@Dave-L . Here we go. My line by line. Expecting your line by line. Hebrews 11 11 Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. [a]And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple...

The gifts still operate as He wills, not as we will. Jesus said He only does what the Father says. Likewise those led by the Spirit only do what the Spirit tells them to do. Some are healed miraculously, some are passed by. Paul was left with a thorn in the flesh because God did not want to...

And I knew the two of you were, but I remained silent :):)

These one liners simply won't do. There is not enough meat on them. Are you saying that Paul had the baptism in the Holy Spirit or not? If he did, where was it TRANSFERRED to him?

You denied perseverance. Why do you deny the scriptures?

Perseverance is part and parce of the Gospel: Romans 5 5 Therefore, having been justified by faith, [a]we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only...