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I believe the post-tribulation view point is easily harmonized with Scripture. Please read my post #8 and especially my post #90. Tell me where you think I am wrong and why? IN GOD THE SON, bluto

You know, (and I mean this respectively), I learned over 5 and half decades ago not to make "blunt" statements like this: "In that the church was revealed through Paul, Jesus did not reveal the church," It's akin to another statement I hear from people which is, "Jesus never claimed to be God."...

What do you mean that it depends on whether the Lord has revealed it to you? The Lord has already revealed the answer to all of us in the Bible. Remember I posted Matthew 24:3 where His disciples ask Him, "what will be the sign of Your coming and the end of the age?" Jesus then says at vs15...

I must say that most of you pre-tribulation rapture advocates "go to verse" is " 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17. I have a question? Will you be raptured before or after the antichrist is revealed? IN GOD THE SON, bluto

Here's your problem with your answer. All you did was quote some verses, (which anybody can do) but you did not explain how these verses prove the pre-tribulation rapture of the church. The topic is "WHEN" will the church be raptured , before or after the tribulation. Also, I addressed 1...

And you know this how? Show me the verse or verses (or as you said that line up with the Biblical facts) that a rapture will take place before the great tribulation? I don't see it. In fact I use to believe in the rapture as described by Hal Lindsey and others even before Hal wrote his book...

I can't help it, but do you really think (logically) that the church will be in heaven according to the pre-tribulation rapture attending the Lamb's supper while all hell is breaking loose on earth? This never did make sense to me especially if your enjoying this supper and then we come down to...

You said the following: " The Church Age is the period of time from Pentecost (Acts 2) to the rapture (foretold in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18). 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 is "NOT" teaching the rapture of the church before the tribulation. If you would read the next chapter 5 the Apostle Paul at vs 1...

You wrote a lot of stuff but you can't prove or pinpoint that there is a Rapture before the great tribulation. And quoting "got questions" won't cut it either. So let me explain my view based on the Biblical record. At Matthew 24:3 the disciples ask Jesus a very specific question? " Tell us...

I'm going to make this short. The thief was saved on that cross because (1) he repented by saying we deserve the consequences of our sins. Also, Jesus in so many words forgave the thief's sins at Luke 23:43. "And He said to him. Truly I say to you , today you shall be with Me in Paradise." In...

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I'm not about to read 98 pages so let me try it this way. The Watchers 2017 wrote this in his list. " "the Messiah ate with Abraham before destroying Sodom ." Can you please tell me how you came to the conclusion that this was the angel of the Lord or the Messiah Jesus Christ? The reference is...

Where is your evidence or proof that Jesus pre-existed His incarnation by appearing in the Old Testament? I read the other thread about the angel of the Lord being Jesus but God uses angels to speak and do things on His behalf. God uses angels as messengers and in fact He uses men as messengers...

So, are you telling me that the Son did not eternally exist before His incarnation as a man? That's all I'm asking for now. IN GOD THE SON, bluto

Well you are opening a can of worms. Show me a verse that specifically says the Apostle Peter and the Apostle Paul were Christians? Shall we then use your damaged logic and say that these two apostles were not saved? Jesus Christ is God the Son by using "deductive reasoning." You just said Jesus...

Yes, they both are the one being of God and John 10:30 and the following verses are teaching specifically they are one in nature/essence. Lot's of people (especially in the cults) figure John 10:30 is only teaching one in purpose but there's more to it than just that as the context indicates...

Your asking a question that in logic is called "an argument from silence." The proper way to determine truth is to understand what IS SAID. I cannot show you the verse that says "Peter and Paul were Christians." Shall we use your damaged logic and say that these apostles were not saved? The...

It goes without saying the Father and the Son are one in purpose but John 10:30 is teaching the fact that the Father and the Son are one in nature/essence. Jesus has just said that the sheep are equally safe in His hand and in His Father's hand. The power of the Son is equal to that of the...

This is a true story! Back in 1989 I was at CRI headquarters sitting there waiting to pick up some tapes and other materials. Who walks in, Dr. Martin and Hank Hanegraaff. Dr. Martin sees me and introduces me to Hanegraaf and he tells me this is his first day. Dr. Martin ask why I was there and...

Now your not making any sense, at least not to me. You just said, "So, the big question stil is, "Why can't we agree as to what God's truth is? God the Father's, Jesus', and the Holy Spirit's truth?" Why are you making a distinction between the three persons of the Trinity as it relates to...