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I have to say Nehemiah6 that I don't know how you can escape the force of Hebrews 9:28. But first read Hebrews 9:27, "And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this the judgment, vs28, so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, shall appear A SECOND...

Since you made this statement, "It is Jesus who links baptism with salvation." I have a question for you from Acts 10:44-48 where the Apostle Peter is dealing with the Roman centurion Cornelius a Gentile. While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were...

You really don't know what your talking about Lamar! For one thing your making what is known as a "category" error by bringing up the Jews coating their door post. This has nothing to do with salvation proper but by doing what God said they were saving their first born from being killed. Don't...

When I used the word "disappears" I had Hal Lindsey in mind. People disappear from all areas of life including Christian Airline pilots and planes begin to crash etc. I just can't see this happening. Besides, Hebrews 9:28 shoots this theory down. "so Christ also, having been offered once to bear...

I owe Seeker47 an apology because I inserted his name in this post and I mixed him up with Lamar. In other words, it is Lamar that I'm addressing, not Seeker47. So Lamar, where are you hiding? As you can see some of us provided proof of what some of the churches and the cults teach which is...

I have to disagree with your assessment of 2 Thessalonians 1:6-10, especially the "rest/relief" part. It clearly states, "when" the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire. According to the rapture position the church disappears to be with the Lord so...

I didn't make anything up buster. Ephesians 2:8-9 states, "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, vs9, NOT as a result of , that no one should boast." So, did you notice we are saved by grace through faith and not of works. Water...

There's lots of them that teach salvation by works. For instance many of them teach you have to be water baptized to be saved. Church of Christ and the Catholic Church teach this. Most of the cults do as well like the Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses and others like the Oneness Pentecostal Church...

Honestly I have to say that the idea that the angels are not mentioned at 1 Thessalonians 4 is really a very weak argument for the so-called rapture at this point. Notice what the Apostle Paul states at 1 Thess. 4:18, "Therefore comfort one another with thesw words." If as you say this is the...

Just to let you know I disagree with your conclusions. That's why I ask you the question so I would be clear as to where you stand on this issue. At Matthew 24:3 the disciples ask Jesus a very specific question about when will the temple buildings be torn down? Jesus then says, "Tell us when...

Quick question for clarity? Do you believe there is a rapture before the second coming? Thank You! IN GOD THE SON, bluto

And how did you come to that conclusion? I ask because it says at John 1:1, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was "WITH" God, and the Word was God." So here's my point? If your "WITH" someone, you can't be that someone. John 1:2 amplifies vs1. "He or That one was in the beginning...

Would you do the same for the Son according to John 5:23? IN GOD THE SON, bluto

First of all God is "NOT" illogical, He at times may be a-logical which means He can go beyond logic, but He is not illogical. Secondly, the doctrine of the trinity is not an "assumption". It is the normative systematic theology of God in Christianity and is based on the fact that the Bible is...

I can explain the Trinity by simply using what the Bible explicitly states and it has NOTHING to do with being prideful. And I'm not talking about examples of let's say, water being liquid, sold or gas under the same conditions. Or using the Sun. Jesus is the light, the Holy Spirit is like the...

Fair enough so let me ask you a question? Btw, I hope you do not get banned. My question comes from Philippians 2. The Apostle Paul is explaining to the believers there (at vs2), "make my joy complete by being of the same mind etc. At vs3 Paul says, "Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit...

So VARob from what I read you do not believe Jesus Christ is God in flesh, am I right? I'm asking for clarification before I address what you stated. IN GOD THE SON, bluto

No, God the Father is not speaking according to the text. Genesis 22:11, "But the angel of the Lord called to him from heaven AND SAID." Also at Genesis 22:15-16, "Then the angel of the Lord called to Abraham a second time FROM HEAVEN. vs16, AND SAID, "By Myself I have sworn, declares the Lord."...

Now your referencing Genesis 18. Vs1, "Now the Lord appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre, while he was sitting at the tent door in the heat of the day." Before this event at Genesis 18 please read Genesis 17:1-2, "Now when Abraham was ninety-nine years old, the Lord appeared to Abram and said to...

So what's your point? I'm asking for clarification as to the identity of the angel of the Lord, who is he in your opinion? Thank You! IN GOD THE SON, bluto