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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Well I would say that we're obviously at a disagreement.Now you could read it again.Maybe you misunderstood something or you're choosing the stick to your guns, you're obviously passionate about what you believe. But let me just clarify that 1 of us is wrong and one of us is right. How you feel...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    “Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after.... I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus” (Philippians 3:12-15)....
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    The author of Hebrews says that we “have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.” The author then says similarly in verse fourteen, “For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are sanctified.” If Christ’s offering has sanctified us...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, then to wait until his enemies should be made a stool for his feet...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    As I have said before, when it comes to the chosen elect these are the saints that they had chosen amongst the community in acts. They chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit, Philip, Prochorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicolaus, a proselyte of Antioch. The congregation...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Although my only disagreement so far from what I can tell on the other side of the argument is that we are regenerate from the time we receive baptism and I believe this is also supported by the early church fothers.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I'm trying to catch up with what the discussion is here. But I think I'm pretty familiar with your views, they seem to be reform views and I can understand that you want the reassurance and guarantee of your salvation. And that's really the appeal behind the reform view. As if there's any...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    My goodness, did you just word vomit, bright flame? And I know that's not your name, but that's the name I'm giving you. It seems to me that you're just looking for an easy way to get right with god. If I'm not mistaken, it's very clear that the way is narrow. If the way is narrow. It's not...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Now these are all Bible quotes tying into the atonement of Christ and I want you to see how they tie into what I have shared. Also denying ourselves, taking up our cross, and following after Christ is essentially the foundation of how we are to respond to gods grace working in our lives. 1...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Matthew 16:24-25 NKJV Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    This is what ties into mortification of the flesh. The term mortification of the flesh comes from the Book of Romans 8:13 in the New Testament: "For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body you will live."[11] The same idea is...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    And lastly, I would like to include. They're speaking about the chosen elect. Those are the ones that were chosen amongst the community. To be one with Christ Divinity. We all have the opportunity to become one with Christ divinity. I don't believe that it's a requirement for you to be saved...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I would give this 5 thumbs up if I could you're spot on and yes, part of what I was referring to is in James. I apologize for not leaving the references. I apologize for the bad grammar and punctuation. And miss types, I'm at work at the moment. There's actually quite a few places in the Bible...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Well, thanks for that. I just noticed that all the nasty responses I got were from bright flame. That guy he's worse than the pharisees. He doesn't deserve to call himself Christian, we would have more devout Christians in this world today if he renounced his Christianity, there is nothing...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I appreciate the response and for you being understanding of the situation. It's been a long time since I've been on the site. And the thing is that if people are gonna expect open dialogue, then they need to stop trying to push their view and insist that people come into alignment with their...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    And this is the fruit of John Calvin and the reformers everyone.This is the fruit that they offer. To cut people off and kill them because they have a disagreement about a theology that's not even essential to their salvation and relationship with God.Yeah , you're right , we are done. I won't...
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    I'm not denying the workings of grace And what that entails what I'm disagreeing with is that...

    I'm not denying the workings of grace And what that entails what I'm disagreeing with is that also requires a response and cooperation with grace.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I would place John Calvin and most of the reformers in that camp. They say their children of light but the protistants first council couldn't agree on the faith. They split in like five different camps. They burned each other at the stake and went to war. And still division is growing. Are they...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    So the question is, the atonement? What did it really accomplish? What does that mean? Google says Prepare Yourself Spiritually. The Atonement is the sacrifice Jesus Christ made to help us overcome sin, adversity, and death. So apparently Christ atonement is a call to purity, a call to holiness...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Right and John Calvin also drowned people in the sea for disagreeing with him. This isn't really a conversation. Based on the topic, this is a conversation based on what the community here, what the majority of the community here believes, and it seems like every time it's about tulip or it's...