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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I 100% agree.And if you read the article that I posted pertaining to what the pope actually said, you may find that it's also in agreement with what you're saying.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Also you're coming from a place of ignorance and you don't understand the context. In July and August, the Italian newspaper La Repubblica ran a pair of open letters to the pope by Dr. Eugenio Scalfari, an atheist commentator. In his open letters, Dr. Scalfari asked the pope a number of...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    What the Pope is saying is that God's grace is a free gift that is offered to everyone, even athiest.I don't believe that this is anti biblical.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    And I'm going to remain silent. Like I said.I'm not discussing the catholic faith with you. And now you're calling me a universalist. I take that as an insult. The bible also says not to judge unless you're using righteous judgment, because the same measure of judgment you use towards others is...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Also I believe that if you're gonna throw a whole religion under the bus due to one man then you're really just attacking a group of people with little understanding of what's going on. Pope Francis, what he was saying is that if atheist do good then they will be saved. So therefore, he's...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Yeah, the Pope needs a lot of prayer.Thankfully he's not the one that determines the faith.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Really the whole point I'm trying to make is your sharing a deemasculated gospel that has no power and no authority. Because it doesn't demand that I come into alignment and agreement. I don't have to repent. I'm already saved. I don't have to follow your dogma. I alredy Earned salvation through...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Well, I reject this doctrine because I don't believe that God's Power and purpose is to save everyone. Since I am rejecting this doctrine what's in Store for me? And I need to clarify that it is God's will to save everyone. But he does not use his power or imposes purpose for everyone to be...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Brightfame52 you serve a weak and little god. The God I know and love and serve is a righteous God. And in like manner, he demands righteousness from those who follow him and desire to be with him. Of course, this is impossible for us to do. That's where the grace of God comes in and that's...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    The only answer he satisfied with is admitting that it doesn't matter if you believe in Christ and what he did for you or not.That Christ has taken away sin from everybody whether they repent or not, and therefore we are all saved whether we consciously choose to follow christ or not. This is...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Okay, if you're not gonna answer my questions and inform me, if my salvation is at risk for denying this doctrine, then either you're avoiding the question, or there's no point in you even having the conversation, because when you're talking about someone who is a God fearing, god loving...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    That's not what I asked.I'm aware of what you believe this has accomplished, what i'm asking is what will happen to me if I choose not to believe that this is true.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Why do you care so much about convincing us to agree with you. There's no reason for us to have to agree with you. Cause either we're wrong and we benefit from it, or we're right, and we still benefit. Whereas, if you're right, then you benefit from it. And if you're wrong then you're not...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Well, I think you may be correct there.I just wanted to tie in a possibility.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I agree with what you're saying here.Everything you're saying is correct.Although what I was pointing out was the part pertaining the sanctification.Here's the particular bible passage 36 "do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You are blaspheming,' because I...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    These quotes are also what would tie in to the Is the deification or sanctification or theosis. In no way, am I saying that we are gods?But in a sense this is what jesus was also referring to us as being god. In other words we go through the process to become one with christ divinity...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    The real blasphemy was giving you a Bible in the first place.You're like a toddler with a loaded gun.You don't even know how to shoot it right. You obviously are taking a lot of things out of context and don't know what you're talking about, but I'm done with this man.You stick to your guns.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Well, if you actually look into what believe in Jesus Christ really means. Then it's not blasphemy. It's actually biblically accurate.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Ok now were getting somewhere. The greek word for believe means much more then to just believe in something. Greek word is pisteuó Pisteuo Definition NAS Word Usage - Total: 243 to think to be true, to be persuaded of, to credit, place confidence in of the thing believed to credit, have...