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My faith is in gods righteousness and sovereignty, not my belief in my own salvation. If you trust god, and believe that god will complete a good work he has begun in you, then you would not be concerned with your own salvation.

Its non of my business if im saved. Being a follower of christ in the hear and now really doesnt have much to do with being convinced of my own salvation. Thats for god to deal with. What you should be more concerned with is if your still running the race towards salvation.

people's view of god is altered by those who claim to know god all the time. Bolth good and bad

Really this is a good answer. But what does believe mean?

Im not saved until I stand before the judge and im pardoned. Weather im saved or not is not my business. God is righteous and I know his decision is whats best.

What does it mean to believe?

Paul also warned not to follow false prophets and teachers. So we are instructed to use discernment concerning others.

Thanks for the apology. I'm not trying to get on anyone's bad side or be a hindrance, just so you know in the first and second century they didn't walk down aisles, they walked to their death. That Jesus requirment to follow him is to die. Correct, the only way is through Jesus Christ. What this...

Well if im in the area I'll reach out. Thanks for sharing.

Lol, yah they love to argue over stuff that has nothing to do with salvation and following christ don't they.

Lol ok. This is the heart of the issue im discussing. You bolth belive in the creed but if you told your pastor your considering converting to presbyterianism im sue he would not be in your corner. Different doctrine and different belife. You bolth should be supportive of each other because your...

Thanks. My issue is christian identifies a religon and not one who follows christ. Therefore the meaning behind christian is different then what it ment in the 1st and 2nd century. I personally would not want to be identified as a follower of a religon. As a pentecostal do you consider...

Thank you sir.

Whats the name of the church.

Thanks for realizing im working out a lot of issues and being willing to give me space. Thats a very christ like thing to do.

I do, because christian doesn't identify a follower of christ. Christianity identifies a religon. The fruit of religon is bad and follows the advisory, because it spreads hate and devision.

I have. I belive in the creed, been baptized, and try to follow him. Just so you know the apostles also weren't christian. They were followers of christ. Christian was just a name given to followers of christ. Now christianity follows the advisory and not followers of christ. To be religous is...

There are those who hate the one who upholds justice in court and detest the one who tells the truth. Amos 5:10 Im not spreading lies. The Christian institutions are not of god but the advisory. Just admit that religon teaches hate. And the creed unifies us.

Would you like to continue judging and speaking poorly of me. I suppose you know god too.

Im also adressing the christian institution not the sheep seeking god. Im not a christian but I believe in the creed