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All of the scriptures you are posting do nothing but show that faithful believers are secure in their salvation. NoT ONE scripture that shows an “unfaithful” , “wayward” Christian who has left the fold of God and is living in sin — like the prodigal son— is saved in that condition. You can’t...

You obviously have not read Exodus 32:33 GOD says, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will BLOT HIM OUT OF MY BOOK.” Even Moses knew God could do that. Verse 32. Deuteronomy 29:20-21-“the Lord would BLOT OUT his name from under heaven.” Revelation 3:5 Jesus says if they are faithful, I will...

Is that what you get from that story? Read for yourself. Had the lost sheep already repented before the Good shepherd sought him? Maybe, because he was lost and in trouble. We can’t tell from the information given, when the sheep repented. It only says he did. Does this story in any way...

we all know and believe that the Christian who is staying in the fold of Christ, is following him faithfully, and doing all the right things —is secure in their salvation. That is not what is being debated here. The scriptures you all are quoting are always describing the “faithful” Christian...

What you call “seeking the approval of God” we call “obedience.” Jesus specifically said, “You are my friends—IF—you do as I say.” All I have to do to get the “approval”” of God is obey Him. James 1:22-25 tells us to be “Doers” of His word, to continue in his Law (commandments) and be a “doer...

Only God knows who among his followers are genuine or not. We are not to assume the worse of people (love thinks no evil -1Cor. 13:5) and I surely don’t believe God expects us to know that he is only talking about people who are not genuine Christian’s. How odd. There is no hint whatsoever...

The scripture assures us of salvation and all of those scriptures you quote that assure us of God’s salvation are only for those who “abide” in Him and his doctrine. You didn’t explain why God is telling Christian’s to abide in Him or they don’t have God in 2 John 9. Or why Paul says you can...

Thank you for that excellent definition of “abide”. You “nailed it!” I agree. (I know you and I don’t agree much on anything else.) Consider this: 2 John 9-“Whoever transgresses and does not ABIDE in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He is writing to the “elect lady and her...

i “contend earnestly for the faith” because that’s what Jude tells me to do. God says to “test” the spirits to see whether they are from God. Because many false prophets have gone out into the world. Titus says to REBUKE false teachers that they may be sound in the faith, not giving heed to...

Absolutely nothing can separate us from THE LOVE of God. He will always love us even if we are vile and are condemned to hell. Isn’t that what the verse is really saying? But God. says in Isaiah 59:2 that Our SINS separate us from God—not the LOVE of God but from His presence. And we all...

But I thought you believed if it is a “work” it can’t be of “grace.”

You didn’t use any scripture that says what you are saying. Is this just your opinion? Specifically, “ We don’t keep commandments to maintain our relationship to God.” And “…not sinning has nothing to do with keeping us saved.” Scripture that teaches this? I find this in Ezekiel: “If you...

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It was the Grace of God that provided a way for us to be saved. His Grace provided the sacrifice and because of His unmerited favor to us He gave us His book that is our road map to heaven. His Grace is evident in all He has done for us. You would think no one would complain about doing...

We are staying in the “fold” of Christ and He is keeping us safe and saved. As long as we don’t leave Him, we are secure. That’s why John said “be faithful unto death.”” We are being faithful to our Lord.

You are in good company. Jesus also was a black sheep with his peers. And you know you are on the “narrow” way because the “majority” are not traveling this road with us. 😄

Unfortunately, God disagrees with you, because He said “BAPTISM DOES NOW SAVE US.” 1 Peter 3:21. AND Jesus disagrees with you, because He said, “He that believes and IS BAPTIZED SHALL BE SAVED.” Mark 16:16. In Acts 2:38, God says “Repent and BE BAPTIZED FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINs.” And in...

Yes, we have security in Christ as long as we stay in the fold of Christ. Luke 15 proves that we can leave of our own free will and be lost. Consider carefully these things. You don’t want to hold on to a false doctrine or a doctrine made by man (John Calvin). 2 John 9 says if we don’t abide...