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I am amazed you can read people’s minds and hearts to know what they think! Doesn’t God tell us NOT TO JUDGE people’s hearts and motives—I thought only He could do that.

Luke 15 is the story Jesus told of a “lost sheep” (Lost spiritually) who “repented” and was restored to the fold of God. Luke 15 is also the story of a “son” of God who leaves his FATHER and is “lost”. But “comes to himself (senses), repents, and returned to his Father. God even tells us...

Well, first of all, John could not possibly be “Calvinist scum” ( your words, not mine) because this was 1500 years before anyone ever heard of his doctrine of “once saved, always saved”. That one fact ought to be enough to prove that this doctrine is not part of the gospel of Christ. Any...

And yet, Jesus lost one! Luke 15. And Jesus tells the story himself. John 10 is talking about sheep being stolen or “snatched” away; which does not even apply to what we are discussing. Luke 15 is about sheep leaving of their own free will and being lost; which is exactly what this thread...

The “Calvinistic loophole.” Based purely on men’s assumption—not God or scripture.

Well, that’s all true, but I am at a loss to know how it teaches “once saved, always saved.”

if it’s in His word, as you say, then tell us where? Otherwise, it’s just your opinion; and you know what they say about opinions—they are like belly buttons—everybody has one. Without scripture, it means nothing.

Please give me the scripture that says that a saved person cannot lose salvation.

I’m afraid not. Neither does it make you correct in your doctrine.

An ASSUMPTION on your part. Nowhere in the scriptures did God ever say that. Your whole premis-doctrine- is built on an assumption not found in the Bible. Neither can you KNow it because you are not God.

???? Not enough information here so that I can figure out what exactly what you are accusing me of.

Wow! I am amazed that you can know all that—the love of God is a “positional love”, and somehow you know that the prodigal son “did not experience the love of God intimately “ and all without the Bible telling you that. Not even a hint. Amazing how you can know all that without Christ...

Where? And don’t give me a bunch of verses showing the FAITHFUL to God are secure. We all know that God is going to save those who are in His fold. These are not “unfaithful”, wayward, or lost. Show me a REAL scripture that is talking about a child of God who is sinning or living in sin but...

And there are SO MANY scriptures that are very plain on the possibility of a believer being lost; not to mention parables ( the “lost sheep” and the “Prodigal Son” ; examples (Simon the Sorcerer Acts 8) and Jesus’s own words in Matthew 7 where he says “depart from me” to a group of BELIEVERS who...

where is the scripture that says or shows that a SINNER will be saved in His sins. ( unrepentant)? you have based your premise on an assumption of your own making. Don’t give me scripture that show God “sealing” the saved, faithful child of God—we all know that salvation is secure for the...

Paul is comparing the “natural man) unsaved to the “spiritual” man saved. Don’t know exactly what your point is.

You are trying to “qualify” here where God does not qualify; you are trying to “limit” sin where Gos has not “limited.” But you know, it really doesn’t matter, because God still makes His point —that a SAVED Person can so sin as to be lost. It doesn’t matter to our debate , if he has sinned one...

John 15 :9-10 says we abide in God’s love —IF—we keep His commandments. To suggest that it is not possible to do that is to accuse God of lying. You impeach God’s word and blaspheme. In Luke 18 a rich young ruler asked Jesus, “What must I do to inherit eternal life?” What was Jesus’s answer...

There is a difference between being separated from the “LOVE” of God and being separated from God, as I’m sure you know. So to try to use this verse to prove the impossibility of apostasy makes me wonder what could be your motive? Also, I believe Luke 15, the story of the “lost sheep” has...