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  1. TruthTalk

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    Hi BillG, I would say a person would need to ask the question; How much of the "New Creation in Jesus", did they see and/or, how much of the "old worldly self" did they see. The more of the qualities of our Savior a person see's the better success we will have had in relating to a friend, family...
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    Apology accepted and thank you for your honesty as well, may we both go in peace and God bless!
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    Quote Chester: "I do not agree that there are two kinds or levels of Christians." I never said there are "two levels of Christians"... Chester I'm done with you so go find someone to argue with cause it aint gnna be me, Good bye Chester
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    Hi forum, misquoting someones words when the words they say are right there in front of you is wrong and misleading to others but to me the big problem is how many times has Chester misinterpreted God's word to all of us here, and never mind what he thinks I said.
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    Show me where I said, your words quote; "it is OK and acceptable to be a "Christian" but not a disciple?" Chester I never ever said those words and "you owe me an apology" for misquoting what I did say, It makes me wonder what kind of person you are to misinterpret someones words so bad...
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    Yes a disciple is definitely a learner and please excuse my shortsighted comment which should have read, as "she or he", grows into maturity;
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    Hi UnderGrace, you, decon, chester and most Christians will understand the distinction between a Christian being one who has put their faith in Jesus Christ for their eternal salvation; and a Christian who has counted the cost and chose to follow the path of discipleship; a disciple will also...
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    Are you serious try using a little kindness and you may get better results.
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    Hi UnderGrace, I agree that posting bits and pieces of scripture for an immature Christian over and over is like posting "versets' for Christianets" When everyone here has made their point clear over and over and yet the truth is rejected like you say, then whats the point anymore.
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    Hi blue_ladybug, yep I have the same popup and yep it is annoying, does anybody know how to make it go away?
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    From my point of view a "Non-Denomination" indicates it is independent from denominational churches such as Catholic, Lutheran, Presby, etc.
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    Hi VCO, on the subject matter of “the Catholic Church and your outreach”, for the people of the Church, can you tell me where do you stand as far as; Do you believe the Catholic Church is a true representation of the “Body of Christ” on earth, with issues; or do you believe the Catholic Church...
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    Hi decon, the Church where I was born again and baptized held fast to a Church rule that a member should not be in a position of leadership until they have been a member in good standing for at least one year. The reason for this rule is because of "Pride." There are some Church members that...
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    JPT, please tell me who claims this idea that you say; "all we need to do?" Who is saying this please. Your quote: "The claim is, all we need to do is “believe in the finished work of Christ”. Yep okay, this seems to be the same argument that GodsGrace101 uses to say that those who believe that...
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    Hi justpassinthrough, Jesus' work is finished and then some because; if I die and just prior to my physical death a person hears the gospel through me and "gets saved", then I have not lived my life in vain and the same is true for you and/or any true born again believer; "If I die and someone...
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    Hi justpassinthrough, so who decided you would be judge and executioner. Are you holding hate i your heart for a Christian brother. First take the tree out of your own eye. You do use the word of God as a meat cleaver, not as a two edged sword like you should. 1John 3:15 Anyone who hates a...
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    Hi safswan, the "dual nature of the justification process" ?, when the gavel falls you are pronounce either innocent or guilty, and the title of your post is, "Justification" The only thing that is obvious is your misunderstanding of "salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ." It is an...
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    Hi VCO, when the weather outside is freezing cold do like Alvin and the Chipmunk's do and build a fire. :)
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    Here's the handy dandy pocket model so that God can blot me outta the book when my obedience falls below my normal abilities. On the other hand God can conveniently reach down and pull Tappex out of His pocket in order to rewrite my name into the book of life as soon as I repent.] Obedience...
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    You are trying to undue a persons eternal salvation, you cannot undue what God has already purposed for each saved individual. True believers are "sealed" for the day of redemption. God has a unique plan for each true born again Christian. 1 Corinthians 2:9 However, as it is written: "What no...