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That's what I do. .

Believing in vain is faith without obedience. As it is written, "They honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. In vain they worship me teaching the commandments of men as doctrines." .

The righteous inherit the kingdom of GOD (Matthew 25:34), but the unrighteous do not (1 Corinthians 6:91-10, Galatians 5:21, Ephesians 5:5)

Inheritance means heirs of the kingdom of GOD (James 2:5) and heirs of the promises to Abraham (Hebrews 6:17, Galatians 3:25). There is no salvation apart from these two things.

OSAS is a rock as long as you continue in the faith. Do not boast against the [natural] branches. But if you boast against them, you do not support the root, but the root supports you. Then you will say, “Branches were broken off in order that I could be grafted in.” Well said! They were broken...

I did answer your question by pointing out that your point is irrelevant because birth is not a guarantee of inheritance. Numerous people in the bible who were rightful heirs were disinherited from receiving the promises of GOD (e.g., Ishmael, Esau, Reuben, King Saul, the nation of Israel, etc).

It's not a matter of being "unborn", but of being disinherited. There are many examples in scripture of those who were rightful heirs being disinherited from receiving the promises of GOD due to their disobedience. .

And I'll add that you dodged my point by not explaining how believing the first time is not self-effort, whereas continued believing is.

And if faith doesn't continue or stops completely at some point? What then?

No, I do acknowledge the enduring result of Christ's death - our justification. And again, you reasoning is absurd. Your one-time faith allows you to boast over those who never had it. There is no boasting in faith. It recognizes that GOD alone gets all of the glory.

You have faith in a "birth". I don't. I have faith in GOD.

I mean seriously, what you're really saying is that a person has to believe once, and then must stop believing, otherwise they are engaging in self-effort. You can't see how ridiculous that is? .

One belief with one enduring result is not self-effort that you can boast in, but if you keep believing that's self-effort that you can boast in? I'm sorry, but that's just laughable. Please explain why the first part of this verse is "self-effort" and the second part isn't. Therefore as you...

This is so absurd. Ongoing faith means boasting, but believing once doesn't.

It's almost like they have total inability... :cool:

My guess is people didn't like it because it tasted like crap. Everyone wants to do less when it comes to cooking, but not if they have to eat flavorless garbage. And that's exactly what people will get if they put the same non-effort into their salvation.

Ralph, consider the possibility that those who are engaging in this madness with you - saying that we don't have to believe until the end, yet saying that they still believe - at some point neglected the faith they had at a younger age, and then realizing their error, returned to the faith later...

Therefore as you have received Christ Jesus the Lord [by faith], live in him [by faith], Colossians 2:6

I wish you folks would quit projecting your beliefs onto Ralph. He's not saying that salvation is sustained by belief (as if it would vanish if we fail to believe for one second), but that salvation can't be received and consummated apart from faith. It is a lifelong process. That's Christianity...

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