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Does it really matter? Did Adam repent or did he not. is he in hades now or in paradise? No. and the whole world will not be saved, Is adam going to hell or heaven? I am not worried at this point about the world. we are talking about adam. Do you think Jesus would have done what he did and...

But you are the one doing this. Notice what scripture sdays eph 1: 13 - 14 - 13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance...

But they do not, and your wrong. Still being devisive I see and not explaining what the bible actually says.. sorry bud. I already explained this verse. it does not say God refuses to allow everyone to believe him,l and give them the opportunity. Oh i agree, it harmonizes.. Thats another...

Did he not repent? Is Adam going to hell? again God put skins to cover his nakedness do you think God would have done that if Adam rejected God. For that matter do you think Adam would let God do it if Adam was unrepentant?

Well here is your first mistake. There was no law until long after the flood correct once the law came it confined that all have sinned. And it is so that all could be restored. The law said the sacrifice was for everyone. Not just a few people What makes us sin is the hole left in our heart...

lol they are the same. I u destined what it at issue. The character, integrity and reputation of my God

I have been reading the Bible for close to 50 years. I asked you. Why are you so afraid to just say yes or no? I know what the Bible says I want to know what you think it days Actually no it is not anywhere in the Bible. Yes the lord establishes. He can divert and change people plans. But we...

there is a flaw in this logic. You can not be indeed until you are born again justified made alive. This will not just happen you must have faith in God to ask for him to apply his death to you. Otherwise your still dead in sin You still have not shown me where I was wrong in saying we do it...

Well remember the law was not given to save. It was given to point to Christ. Because no one could keep the law

Is there a reason you can not answer questions? I asked you. not open bible info. can you please answer so i know what you think.. I am trying to get a baseline so i can have an actual conversation with you

You stated emphatically that we can not elect to understand and therefor believe the gospel. Now can you tell me how else to interpret this other than no one can chose to elect?? or can you show me where you said some of us can not chose or elect to do it?

amen So is it truth? Is calvinism, or fatalism true?

But you said no one. This is not true

your right, It was a symbol. this too was a symbol. But we can say that Adam was restored.. And that most likely is when or shortly before that period when Adam repented

well I would agree. they did this to themselves. But Jesus did cast them out from his presence.

when he killed an animal. removed the animal skin, and clothed adam. If Christ did nto set adam free. adam will not be in heaven

well I have 2 options. 1. the fatalist or calvinist view. which says God makes a person born again, while still in sin. and based on this election. the person will be saved (faith comes after) 2. The other view. that says God offers salvation to everyone, that through his creation, and through...

You said if God did not act. there would be no need of salvation. My point is it dopes not matter if God acted or not. we all need salvation. so what you said is nonsensical.. Can you explain what you mean please

Or Maybe everything you say lines up with their thinking? I do not need to label anything. But if you speak like a Calvinist. walk like a Calvinist. Why would you deny your a Calvinist? I never could understand how people can do everything a certain group does. then they deny they have any...

Then God is not the loving God he claims to be. Unless he OFFERS this love to everyone. You can not call him a God of love