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  1. Laish

    Oneness or trinity, Is Jesus God or man?

    What your school chum was referring to is probably from here Alter Christus ( another Christ ) Latin "As an alter Christus, the priest is profoundly united to the Word of the Father who, in becoming incarnate took the form of a servant, he became a servant (Phil 2: 5-11). The priest is a...
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    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    That’s my point if the original is true then millions are actually worshipping on Friday and not the sabbath. If the current is correct then millions in the past were not worshipping on the sabbath. Concerning the region I mentioned earlier. So which one? Blessings Bill
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    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    What I am talking about is a imaginary line in the Pacific Ocean one side it’s lets say Friday the other side it’s the sabbath. The Jews had it just east of Jerusalem so that The temple was where it started . Now for commerce reasons it’s in the middle of nowhere so a whole large area like Asia...
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    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    Hey I have a question for you bud62 Concerning the sabbath. Up until recently the Jewish sabbath was measured from the rising of the sun on Jerusalem or the location of the Temple. The date line went westward from there . In recent history man moved the international dateline out to the...
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    If we are going to keep the SABBATH the 7th day, in HEAVEN, Why are not people keeping it now ???

    Oh what about those poor astronauts on the international space station. They get 16 sunsets and sunrises in a 24 hr period. Those folks would have get services done quickly only a 90 minute sabbath up there . Blessings Bill
  6. Laish

    Bible versions-Is there only one?

    Oh dear again? 😮 wow having flashbacks. Anything new this time ? Nope . I had to check Here I thought vinyl went out of style. Goes to show even today broken records still get played . Blessings Bill
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    Mary Mother of Jesus: Sinless?

    It’s cool Whispered. Yea I did read the whole post . I agree that things get out of hand too often between brothers and sisters in Christ. Even if we don’t see eye to eye we shouldn’t behave like the world when we disagree. I am embarrassed to say I fail at times concerning this . I am always...
  8. Laish

    Mary Mother of Jesus: Sinless?

    Ok looks like we have successfully hijacked the thread . Let’s take to to Cuba lol Apologies folks Blessings Bill
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    Mary Mother of Jesus: Sinless?

    Ok got ya . Please excuse all the questions . I noticed that way too often ( to quote lead zeppelin ) words can have two meanings lol 😂 I just wanted some clarity. I have had professing Christian folks say Jesus was sinful . They said His human nature signed but His Devine was sinless. So I...
  10. Laish

    Mary Mother of Jesus: Sinless?

    Ok do humans have the capacity not to sin asides being in a coma . Blessings Bill
  11. Laish

    Mary Mother of Jesus: Sinless?

    Being the second Adam I see his nature as being human yet with a choice of either to sin or not to sin if you follow ? Blessings Bill
  12. Laish

    Mary Mother of Jesus: Sinless?

    So meaning Jesus had a unfallen human nature, but during his incarnation , he lived in a fallen world. So even the incarnate God was not above our fallen existence. “For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus: Sinless?

    Can you please demonstrate from scripture where Jesus had sinful flesh ? Also what do you believe Adam’s nature was before the fall ? Blessings Bill
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    Mary Mother of Jesus: Sinless?

    Yea I am following the thread , but perhaps not your line of thinking ( not a insult) . Still I may have over looked a thing or two. Generally in conversation with folks on sin concerning Mary those arguing that she was sinless her entire life use the angel’s greeting as a prooftext . I...
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    Transubstantiation - Is it a mircle?

    It’s held by Lutherans to a certain extent along with Anglicans and the Orthodox Church. Blessings Bill
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    Mary Mother of Jesus: Sinless?

    Question. How is Mary able to be born born without sin ( a human being) and Jesus Christ God incarnate not able to do the same ? Rhetorical question next why is Mary capable of of this and not God? Blessings Bill
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    Mary Mother of Jesus: Sinless?

    Hey Whispered. I have two points . First is as you stated that Catholic tradition veneration of saints is not worship as they define it . That is the point. They define it so that veneration paid to God is worship and to anyone else is not . Here from new advent Catholic encyclopedia is a snip...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus: Sinless?

    I would say some do worship her . Also some that don’t believe they worship her . Here is something concerning one of the Marian Dogmas Mediatrix of all graces is a Title that the Catholic Church gives to the Mary as the Mother of God, it includes the understanding that she mediates the...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus: Sinless?

    Hi Whispered What I posted was directly ( copy and paste) from the Catholic Encyclopedia on line It’s a 14 volume set ( really expensive over 480 $ used ) in hard back it’s a seminary ( priest in training) level set . Also it’s free on line but kinda hard to navigate unless you know exactly...
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    Mary Mother of Jesus: Sinless?

    Ok here is a snip from the Catholic encyclopedia concerning the worship of Mary and the saints . As the Blessed Virgin has a separate and absolutely supereminent rank among the saints, the worship paid to her is called hyperdulia (for the meaning and history of these terms see Suicer, Thesaurus...