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  1. Lamar

    Loss of salvation???

    Do you honestly think that I would not check your verses??? Ephesians 2:89 does not state that there are no conditions for the grace given. You are simply reading the "no constrains" into the verse. Matthew 5:43-44 and Luke 23:34 does not even use the word "grace". Grace being in the verse...
  2. Lamar

    Loss of salvation???

    Can you show a biblical example of grace being "given without condition or stipulation" and being stated as such? Can you give me an example of Jesus even using the word?
  3. Lamar

    Loss of salvation???

    ; ??? We are talking about what the Bible meant for "only one receives". 1st Cor. 9:24 P.S. The ancient Olympics did not give medals to the winner but an olive wreath. And only the winner, there was no second place prize.
  4. Lamar

    Loss of salvation???

    Okay, so what conditions does your "definition" encompass? 1 Timothy 2:4 New King James Version who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. If the above is true, what conditions for God's grace are not being met?
  5. Lamar

    Loss of salvation???

    So what is the prize that "only one receives"?
  6. Lamar

    Loss of salvation???

    Even grace has "certain conditions".
  7. Lamar

    Loss of salvation???

    Again, this is about 1st Cor. 9:24 not your red herring "reward" in 1st Cor. 3:15. This is about staying faithful to the end not the works of man in 1st Cor. 3:15. You are only convincing those who want to be convinced. Grace has conditions. It is woven into the very fabric of the Bible.
  8. Lamar

    Loss of salvation???

    1st Corinthians 9:24 has nothing to do with works. It is about the "prize" of salvation. You will either gain it or not, hence the use of "only one". There is no middle ground. It is not a "reward" for good works. It is the hoped for outcome of our faithful obedience to Jesus Christ. Paul does...
  9. Lamar

    Loss of salvation???

    No, the race is still on. I don't make the rules, I just follow them. So what do you think the singular prize that we are running for?
  10. Lamar

    Loss of salvation???

    You believe you can lose the race but still be saved??? Here is the verse: ERV You know that in a race all the runners run, but only one runner gets the prize. So run like that. Run to win! The context is win or lose, not do your best. There is no participation trophy in this race. Remember...
  11. Lamar

    Loss of salvation???

    This is a interesting thought, what do you base this on? I have never seen this taught in the many times I have heard the prodigal son story preached.
  12. Lamar

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    The only people that would accept your nonsense are those who want mankind to be labeled as created morally and spiritually corrupt. You are simply attacking a strawman of your own making. No one is using terms such as "sinless" or "morally perfect human beings" except you. We all know that...
  13. Lamar

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    Matthew 19:26 New International Version 26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
  14. Lamar

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    Again, this is the verse: 2 Kings 22:2 English Standard Version 2 And he did what was right in the eyes of the Lord and walked in all the way of David his father, and he did not turn aside to the right or to the left. King Josiah did not turn aside to the right or to the left. This phrase...
  15. Lamar

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    It is you who is bringing up "sinless" and "morally perfect human beings". No one is making these claims. Again, in your zeal to defend that mankind was created without the ability to freely chose right from wrong you have lost sight of reason. 2nd Kings 22:2 was not being used to promote King...
  16. Lamar

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    Again, here is the text: 2 Kings 22:2 New International Version 2 He did what was right in the eyes of the Lord and followed completely the ways of his father David, not turning aside to the right or to the left. King Josiah is compared to King David in the positive. The comparison is not...
  17. Lamar

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    Okay...I am going to use your reasoning. Show me chapter and verse where King Josiah did not keep the law of God perfectly, which is what you are claiming.
  18. Lamar

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    The verbiage "Josiah walked in all the ways that his father David walked" is a positive not a negative term. King Josiah is being praised for walking in the ways of King David. Are you aware of this? Okay, so tell me what is the meaning and context of 2nd Kings 22:2?
  19. Lamar

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    Your reasoning is absurd. The term "not turning to the left or right" means simply to obey God's commands without exception. The context of 2nd Kings 22:2 is limited to King Josiah's obedience to God's commands concerning his duties as king. The Bible states that King Josiah followed these...
  20. Lamar

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    Is this your issue? That Nehemiah6 used the word "perfectly" to describe his not turning from the "left or the right" in the context of 2nd Kings 22:2? Be honest, is this really your issue? Do you think that Nehemiah6 is implying that not "turning to the left or right" equals living a sinless...