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It isn't even about people in general. This is what happens when scripture is not understood within it's context. The passage is speaking of a specific subset of people ie. wicked rulers and the reason the Lord can speak of them as beginning that way from the womb is because the Lord is...

Yes it is formed by what scripture says unfortunately it is not scripture taken within it's rightful context or in comparison to other scripture but simply pulled out and thrown at people like darts. Not helpful to the Body.

Ok, well there are areas we differ in understanding. Not sure if this is really the thread to get into it though. Would be happy to join you in a thread on the mechanics of acquiring faith and how it works in our walk if you start or find a thread on the topic. :)

So basically you don't agree with the answer you got from @Genez yet you rudely accuse him of not giving you an answer then make your snide comments about my supposed bias around use of language and you think we are both in the wrong? Gee, I wonder why you find our conversations unedifying...

You asked "Where do you find that sin caused man to be transformed into the image of Satan?" and he explained by saying "transformed in how we think". The more we think like Satan, the more we look like him. Looking like someone is what an image is. Do you honestly need all the back story of...

We are in Satan's image when we think like him. The scriptural example given was the one of Peter in Matt.16:20-22. I don't know how you missed the answer. :confused:

You're welcome to your opinion. Have a nice day. :)

Actually, what we are really arguing with is your ignorance. :)

He is also saying it is the wicked who does that. He is not saying everyone is wicked. That everyone is wicked is your stance. Everyone is a sinner from birth but that is not the same as being wicked. One learns evil and wickedness. God is able to declare who the wicked are from birth because he...

Ok, I see what you're saying. I agree with the above statement. This is why I separate our believing from having faith. I do not see them as being the same thing. Our believing is agreeing with the facts or truth of God's word but it is the word, when making it's home in our thinking, that...

So how were you thinking strewth was said? I thought it would be fairly evident, as it's generally considered to be a contraction of "God's truth" or It's truth".

The Romans 1 type does not assent to your statement.

Your heart is your thinking, specifically the place where you hold your most valuable thoughts from which comes your reality. The Lord says "come, let us reason together" (Is.1:18) He doesn't say 'come, let us emote together'. Yet, too many Christians base their thinking on how they feel not on...

There is a difference between the use of slang and changing the meaning of words to suit one's ego so their feelings aren't hurt. ;) I am assuming you know what a yobbo is? Sometimes, it is from the uncouth one gets the most direct and most appropriate understanding of language and is usually...

No problem, stuff happens. I don't always get it right myself. :) I hope you can appreciate I desired to be as accurate as possible in our language. Something I consider is even more important today with the commandeering of the English language simply to suit certain people's ego.

The person isn't arguing with God, just your interpretation of a single verse that fails to take into account the rest of what scripture says. I have found this to be typical of you. You never seem to compare scriptures in order to get a more accurate picture of reality.

This I can assent to. :D

I disagree. To assent means to agree. I think people here are confusing acknowledgement of what is said with assent to what is said. If you assent to the veracity of something you are believing it to be true. The Romans 1 type did not assent (agree) to the existence of God as creator, they...

Are you hearing yourself? First you declare you don't know who is or isn't saved then you state categorically that even those who believe the Gospel aren't saved. Maybe I was wrong about you for it seems you do not believe God keeps His word. I guarantee you, anyone who believes the Gospel to...

The first quote is your original post. To give assent is to agree with as true. So they either agree with the Gospel as being true or they are deceived and either are lying to themselves or are ignorant of the Gospel. You can't have it both ways. They cannot give assent and not be saved. No, I...