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We don't twist anything. It is YOU who perverts God's justice because you obviously think that all mankind is worthy of God's salvation. Soo....if God doesn't make salvation possible for all then that makes him many nasty things in your world. Thankfully, I don't live in your world, nor would...

How would any of us "know this" since we're not mind-readers and cannot know what your inane next straw man will be?

If my ol' memory serves, yesterday Cameron (I believe) brought up the fact that God sovereignly and freely chose Abraham's descendants whom God called "Israel" to be his chosen nation and yet none of the free willers [oddly] complain about this fact. But in response to that one of the more...

I know you don't because somewhere in your mind you see God as being cruel, unfair, unjust if he simply gave people what they rightfully deserve. And that, madam, is pretty sick reasoning.

Actually, Jimbone was pointing to all the venom inside the hearts of you free willers. You guys desperately need a new heart.

Well...well...you finally got something right, proving once again the old adage that even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a chestnut! Congratulations! This is the good news about you. But the bad is that you don't have a clue about how the "doctrine of inability" changes everything...

I have a biblical answer to your good question -- in fact even more than one answer. But I'll wait until the free will spinmeisters spin their web of deceitfulness first.

Projection is an inevitable by-product of self-deception. The self-deceived are totally unaware of what they're doing; for they fancy themselves as the champions, defenders and arbiters of truth.

Only the LIVING can hear the gospel and believe it. The spiritually dead have no spiritual ability. Study Jesus' discourse to Nicodemus some day.

I see "people around" me as being as spiritually weak, helpless and vulnerable as I once was before the Lord rescued me, and in being in desperate need of the new birth so that they can repent of their sins and believe the gospel. What about you? How do you see people?

Well...faith is a work! It's God's work, don't you know?

So, that's what you got out of my post: That I'm lazy and don't want to serve my king? :rolleyes: Oy vey!

CV5's straw men are all he has. Without those, he'd have nothing to post. Plus he thinks his straw men prove how smart he is. :rolleyes:

"What choices", you ask? The ones God desires for me to make! Have you never read: Phil 2:13 13 for it is God who works in you [or if you're a free willer, he forces you like the tyrant he is] to will and to act according to his good purpose. NIV Since you asked, I have to presume that...

And we're choosing like never before in our life. After all, the Truth has set us free and Jesus has as well. Once we were free FROM righteousness; now we're free FROM the control of sin which makes us free TO choose what is RIGHT! Look at this NC age as a big dress rehearsal for the eternal...

Including the means to save souls. I joyfully and soberly at the same time consider it a great privilege to be a co-worker with Christ in evangelism. It's not my place to know who is and who isn't among God's elect. But it is my place to obey God.

It's called self-deception. These professing Christians of which you speak have conned themselves into believing they are the superheroes of the Christian Faith whom God has called to defend the faith. So...any tactic or strategy or plan they employ to "fulfill their calling" is fair game...

And what does your posted nonsense have to do with 2Jn 10-11?

Grace first...but NOT alone!

Hah! God has allotted to every man a measure of faith (Rom 12:3). But the earlier portion of v.3 qualifies who "every man" is! This is how the entire verse reads: Rom 12:3 3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among YOU, not to think of himself more highly than...