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    Understanding God’s election

    The calvies accept the gift. The calvies believe. But your acceptance and your belief.........BAD news!
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    Understanding God’s election

    Well, This is simple. NEVER perish. All believers are forever preserved. BUT.....not all believers will have all their rewards, reign,rank, crowns.....It's sad, those are all rewards that we have the privilege to cast before His feet to glorify Him. Loss of salvation glorifies the creature and...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Whether you realize it or not sis, you're trying to pit scripture with scripture. John 10:28 is a clear and straight forward verse. We will NEVER perish. The Armins try to find/make a verse say ," Well, we can perish." So go back to the very clear verse.....We will NEVER perish. So the more...
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    Understanding God’s election

    All of His divine attributes work in unison with each other at all times.He can't be unloving, unjust at times.....It would impugn His other divine attributes. He paid for the sins of ALL.......knowing some would never trust in Him. The problem left for unbelievers is EVIL. Sins are paid for...
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    For many are called, but few are chosen Matthew 22:14

    All believers are called for service.......few are chosen for SERVICE. The believer has to advance in His plan for their life. The believer has to grow in Grace and knowledge. They have to be in the "meat" before they are chosen for SERVICE.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Jesus said to her, I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me shall live even if he dies, Believes and THEN you shall live. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.... Believes and THEN shall be saved. Commit Things worthy of stripes and you shall be...
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    Understanding God’s election

    It is amazing and sad to watch. Christ dying for each and every person and each and every person has the glorious opportunity to be saved.....Is a false Gospel and doesn't glorify the Lord Jesus Christ in their world? Insanity and terrible! Israel failed to bring the message to all of mankind...
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    Understanding God’s election

    The order is believe and THEN you shall be saved. Acts 16:31.
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    Understanding God’s election

    No. This is what I am saying. Believe and THEN you shall be saved. If that isn't the order, then we can beat a man before he does anything worthy of a beating. Luke 12:48 But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few.........
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    Understanding God’s election

    NASB 1995 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. The Doctrine of eternal security. We have eternal life. We will NEVER perish. No one( that includes me) will snatch us out of His Hand. All in ONE verse.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Which comes first? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and You shall be saved... The saving or the believing? Luke 12:48 But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few......... Believe and THEN you shall be saved. Simple.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Acts 16:31 So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved, you and your household.” Luke 12:48 But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few......... Believe and THEN you shall be saved. Commit things worthy of stripes...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved. Believe and THEN you are saved.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Still avoiding it I see.
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    Understanding God’s election

    You didn't address the point of my post. Which comes first? The beating or the things worthy of a beating? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Which comes first? The beating or the things worthy of a beating? Funny how you guys all avoid this part. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and You THEN shall be saved.
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    Understanding God’s election

    Believe and THEN be saved. Simple as that.
  18. K

    Understanding God’s election

    Nope. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved and that goes for ANYONE.
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    Understanding God’s election

    It's the focus. They focus on the creature. If they understood the Creator and all that He accomplished........No need to focus on all our darkness and faults. He died for each and every person's sins and made His salvation available to ALL. Now that's light and true HOPE. And the true GOOD...
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    Understanding God’s election

    Yep......Acts 16:31 So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved, you and your household.” And then we will get their word salads to try to make it say ," Saved THEN believe." Like this verse. It really means," beaten THEN committing things deserving of stripes."...