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That is false. The 1st century church's position was that Christ would return, visibly at some point in the future. That is not the position of Preterists or Amillennialist. Both of these views remove the requirement that the angels clearly give for Jesus' return at the Ascension. That every...

No, it is not because everyone at that judgement goes to Hell. Every single person there. So you are saying that some people who are saved go to Hell.

So I can get more of this? No thanks. I'll pass. If you want to stay where you are at, no one is going to talk you out of it.

I don't remember saying that, and it is a poor tactic to attempt to infer that I did, as well as disingenuous. If you get your theology wrong, especially if you use it to lead others astray, you will have to give an account before Christ, just like anything else you have done wrong. I've...

Of course it is. Most of the people in this thread who are trying to make all prophecy already fulfilled are saying the Church replaces Israel and that Israel's time is done. That's Replacement Theology. It isn't a label. It's what their doctrine does. it's what their doctrine teaches. Do...

If one is not passionate about what they believe, in regards to Christ, there is a huge problem somewhere. Prophecy is not something someone can play fast and loose with, in regards to Jesus, the Church, Israel's final redemption, any of it. And just as with the basics of salvation, if your...

No it is not. God is outside time. He is in control of it and he does not measure it according man's definition of it. People who want to jack around with prophecy and re-mold it to their own personal doctrine do so because they are impatient, or they have a personal agenda they need served...

They attack when they have nothing substantial to offer.

So . . . you found that dispensationalism was "wrong," and then adopted a doctrine that was even worse? I'm not a hyper-dispensationalism, but there is no doubt that God deals with different groups of people, in different ways, throughout the history we have to examine. There is no debate...

They want the Church to replace Israel. They want Israel, and the Jews relegated to the dust bin and give God's promises to Israel to the Church. The fact that the Church Age is basically a parenthetical speed bump in God's overall plan disturbs them so they have to find a way to pretend that...

THIS! Revelation is a pesky item that has to be completely re-worked and turned into something else if you are a Preterist, or an Amillennialist, or an SDA, or a JW, or a Mormon, or even a Catholic. Because it really messes up your doctrine if you take it as literal. prophecy. God made...

Milton Terry, who is a preterist. :rolleyes: Just another false teacher trying to tell everyone that the Church replaces Israel. Replacement Theology is not a viable theology.

No, amillennialists use the non-literal allegorical approach. Which is always wrong for prophecy, since prophecy has to fulfilled the way it is written in tangible, testable, provable ways. Amillennialism was invented to take specific promises away from Israel, and give them to the Church...

No, they are not. Believers are not judged at Christ's judgement seat. They have to give an account for their actions and then they are either given rewards, or not, based on that behavior. You are implying that after a person accepts Christ and is saved, God will somehow punish them if their...

The delineation is extremely easy to find. All you have to do is look at the text. You tell me where it's at. I already know where it's at. Me telling you where it is isn't going to help you correct your position.

Since when are hermeneutics important to an Amillennialist? If Josephus were alive during World War II, I am pretty sure that he would view the massacre of 6 million Jews as worse than the localized death toll in Jerusalem in 70 AD. Yes, I know how Josephus describes it. You want to confine...

And you think abortion is perfectly fine, so what's your point? You are no morally better than Trump. The statement that he does not pay taxes is ludicrous. If that were true the Liberals would already have his head on a post. I'm not completely convinced he cares about the middle class the...

70 AD was only a physical fulfillment of Jesus' prophecy that the temple would be destroyed. That prophecy required a literal fulfillment. It was also a spiritual fulfillment and sign of Jesus' redemptive power because it halted the sacrifices and made any component of Mosaic Law literally...

I have. You ignore it and go off on another tangent, which is the mark of someone who can put things out there, but not actually defend them. Show me actual scripture that supports pre-existence. I keep bringing it up because pre-existence is a Mormon doctrine. You are forwarding a Mormon...

You make absolutely no sense. Your expressed thoughts are so disjointed and your "logic" is so not logical that it is difficult to know how to counter what you offer, which is actually no defense at all. You can't even spell Nazarenes correctly. A simple space between where scripture ends and...