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And yet, when i walk outside, the consensus of the forum changes and my ignorance remains.

I see what you mean, rather like bilbo showing his stolen smaug trophy to the dwarves...

Do you mean his saying christ was the lord and god? Yes, i read that too. Do you realize this very discuss is the mechanism used to justify the slaying of christ?.... John 12 16- At first his disciples did not understand. Only after Jesus was glorified did they realize / they had done these...

For it is written, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart

The begining of this discussion was: The christ man/god duality debate. In the context on this fragmented debate, I have had to reference the old covenant , so i go on to say paul ran afoul of christ by obeying the torah, which, paul hisself lamented made nothing perfect, and im trying to share...

John 1:3 says all things were created through him. Ironically, if you convinced me Christ is God, rather than God was christ, if i didn't change my behavior, then you would be wasting your time, but what is it you suggest i do to glorify God? Let nothing be wasted, awelight. I believe the proper...

Ok, The heavens declare the glory of God, the skies proclaim the work of his hands.- The law of the lord is perfect, reviving the soul-by them is your servant warned. God presides in the great assembly, he gives judgement among the gods. O lord, other lords beside you have ruled over us, but...

Beware the scoundrel, He winks with his eye, signals with his feet, motions with his fingers, he always stirs up dissension with deceit in his heart. (sigh) then i guess youll say- If you have raced with men on foot and they have worn you out, how will you compete with horses?

what was your question?

Thank you for your elucidation

Said i did not expect to enlighten anyone or learn anything new from a text i was familiar with.

This is a discussion forum, its come as you are. If God chose to reveal himself on earth as a man and that was the only form of sentience apparent to an observer, and if christ is image of God as a man on earth, how else could it be described?

I should leave.

You certainly have build me a wall. The creation was made for christ and christ to live in the creation. God said christ was his son and he loved him, so he made him a body with bilateral symmetry and so it goes, man was made for the earth and the earth for man, the words christ and man are...

Thank you, Bluto, for your contribution to the discussion. Which is what it is. From this standpoint i will assemble my best response. If you believe the lord of the old testament (jehovah) is god you are required to live according to his laws. In the new testament a posit is made that men...

Every word spoken against the son of man will be forgiven

I know a man in christ fourteen years ago who was caught up to the third heaven, whether it was in the body or not I DONT KNOW. Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the lord. On that day you will realize that i am in my father and...

Let me try this then- If christ is God then God is man, part of the creation- but god made everything, then he made man. but- If God was christ and we are of christ then we are part of what was made like everything else and God is distinct from the creation. -and as soon as he came up from the...

Foreign language is not my thing... -Let us go down and confuse their speech. BUT what i have heard from the polyglots is this: The illusory phrase Word of God is logos, which means logic, Word of God/Son of God- Christ is the foundation given us morality/logic/fellowship. Christ was the...

It is a concern of mine that the prophets and the anointed of the lord were doing the work of the lord and not the work of God. -The only one who has been to heaven is the one who came down from heaven, Ye are the children of the devil and you seek to do his work. - My question is, then, how can...