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I'm not too confident in using selected quotes from anyone to try and make a point...….. not even Obama nor Trump. But, I do strongly believe in a fuller reading to see who they really are, such as a complete book (or 2 ... or 10) someone might write.

Thank you, I probably will.

It has taken me about a month each time I read it.... and I have to admit that even now on this 4th run at it, I still am truly understanding only about 3/4 of it.

Well, it is some 1,600+ pages of VERY difficult reading, so I couldn't just through out a few quotes. But, it is online (FREE) for anyone to download. Get it and read it. For starters, he referred to the opinions and thoughts of others who disagreed with him as "absurd" 286 times. And that...

I don't think I ever mentioned Predestination, TULIP, or Calvinism at all. I said I read his premier work The Institutes of The Christian Religion..... (at the moment, I am in the midst of rereading it — [this will be four times, total]), and I find him to be much less of a man than I had once...

As I said, when you read straight from his own books, you are reading no one's words but Calvin's.

You can find the full translation of all of his works online in several places. The sites are pure Reformed, BTW.

I had no idea what kind of an arrogant, hateful person Calvin was until I read his very own words in The Institutes for the first time.

Basically, all good things.

Hi. Been hearing a lot about this place, so I thought I would come take a look.