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renewed No you dont believe Rom 3:24-25 you just think you do, you are deceived. You believe in Justification conditioned on man, on what a man does. Shows how you lack understanding, my point is everyone Christ died for are born Justified by His death. Even the OT Saints were born Justified...

In order to spiritually hear the Gospel and understand it spiritually one must be born of God, Jesus stated that Jn 8:47 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. And 1 Cor 2:14 is speaking about the Gospel of Christ, the Wisdom of God...

Should we mention the doctrine of election to the unbeliever? Some have told us that this great Biblical truth is an “in-house debate” and should not be brought up to the unbeliever. We should them at the place of their responsibility and never mention their inability we are told. First, let...

So did you understand where I was coming from ?

He died for all, in order that ? 2 Cor 5:15 15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again. The word That underlined above is the greek conjunction Hina and means: that, in order that, so that...

If thats what you want to call it, it still boils down to you having a Christ dishonoring view, and elevating yourself.

Its not very humble to think that Christs death alone didnt produce saving effects to them He died for. But that it takes one to avail themselves to accomplish salvation for themselves. Thats pride and self exaltation.

Duh I have been posting what I believe makes me a Christian and anybody else who could be one. The fact of the matter is you have been posting contrary to the saving death of Christ.

Justification by God is manifested by the Resurrection of Christ 3 1 Cor 2:7 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: This Wisdom of God in a Mystery the Apostles Preach is nothing less than the Gospel of...

Arent you posting things you believe in this public forum ? All one must do is read what you post, duh

Yep, if you condition salvation on the action of you openeing the door, thats works. Now if someone hears knocking and opens the door, they must have already had life in them in order to hear understand and then perform the act of opening the door. So they were already saved with life in them.

Two things, You condition salvation on what man does, which is woks salvation and a denial if grace salvation, and apparently you deny that Christs death in and of itself converts sinners unto God

persistence Avail themselves: avail oneself of something to help oneself by making use of something that is available. Avail themselves of - Idioms by The Free Dictionary So availing oneself is conditioning salvation on oneself. Yet Christs death in and of itself effects Salvation unto...

What is Gods purpose according to election? Rom 9:11 11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth ) What is Gods purpose according to election? The purpose of God...

Im speaking truth. It is a gift, yet you condition it on availing oneself, thats making it something you earned, a work of yours. Also you deprive Christ of His saving efficacy by His death, by believing people He died for can still be lost if they dont avail themselves, am I correct ?

Yeah.

persistent Then you dont believe that Christs death actually saved them He died for, but they must first avail themselves. Thats salvation based upon man meeting a condition, which you termed " whosoever will avail themselves".

So do you believe that Jesus Christ death actually provided saving results for them He died for ? Thats the premise of this thread. Thanks

The Death of Christ is a Saving death, it produces a seed that shall serve Him Isa 53:10 10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall...

That we might be Married to Another! As stated previously, the Death of Christ accomplished for all whom He died, no exceptions, that they are dead to the Law, but that for a purpose, that they should be Married to Another, That being the Lord Jesus Christ Rom 7:1-4 Know ye not, brethren, (for...